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Horse Collar Call Penalty on LSU, but No Call on Bama
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:01 am
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:01 am
Alabama committed a horse collar offense on Jayden Daniels during the first half. The officials never threw a flag. Later in the game, LSU was penalized for a horse collar offense. LSU did indeed commit the horse collar offense. Why was Alabama not penalized for the same offense? Corruption, I presume?
It’s time for referees to have some accountability. They need to answer to someone.
It’s time for referees to have some accountability. They need to answer to someone.
This post was edited on 11/5/23 at 9:23 am
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Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:02 am to zaniesmo12
They do answer to someone….the REC.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:02 am to zaniesmo12
They should have been both called. Perkins did have his hand inside the collar. I know he didn’t pull him back but you can’t have your hand in the collar. Bang bang call.
The first half miss was atrocious.
The first half miss was atrocious.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:03 am to zaniesmo12
LSU scored that drive anyways.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:04 am to zaniesmo12
They need to, but they won't. They are corrupt. They stink.
Posted on 11/5/23 at 9:04 am to zaniesmo12
And what’s the mechanism to hold them accountable?
CBK: “That was a terrible no call.”
Saban: “I think it was fine.”
SEC: “We’ve reviewed and feel no additional comment is necessary.”
There is your accountability.
CBK: “That was a terrible no call.”
Saban: “I think it was fine.”
SEC: “We’ve reviewed and feel no additional comment is necessary.”
There is your accountability.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:59 am to Geauxtigersgeaux12
quote:That's not the point.
LSU scored that drive anyways.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:10 am to zaniesmo12
The bama horse collar wasn’t as obvious, still should’ve been called. The only penalties that lsu fans should be complaining about are the 3 illegal snaps. Never seen that shite before and even when Turner managed to get the snap off properly a lot were shitty and negatively affected the play. It’s amazing what Jayden Daniels has managed to do with all of the incompetence surrounding him.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:11 am to zaniesmo12
Refs will be replaced by AI soon and college FB will flourish.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:19 am to zaniesmo12
quote:That is not why we lost the game. I'm not jumping on the ref-bandwagon.
Horse Collar Call Penalty on LSU, but No Call on Bama
Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:23 am to zaniesmo12
LSU didn’t commit a horse collar tackle. The NCAA’s rulebook wording for a horse collar is pretty terrible while the NHFS and NFL rulebooks are both more thorough. In both of those rulebooks the horsecollar is essentially defined by grip to the side or back and that grip being used to “cause the ball carrier’s knees to buckle”(NFL) or “pulling backward or to the side”(NHFS). It was not a penalty in this case because Perkins Jr. brought down the ball carrier with a grip that was inside the front, it was this grip that caused the tackle and doesn’t meet the definition of horse collar. The NCAA actually does have a better explanation in one of their training videos, just not in their rulebook.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:27 am to zaniesmo12
quote:
Alabama committed a horse collar offense on Jayden Daniels during the first half. The officials never threw a flag
1. That was a very clear horse collar and no excuse that it wasn’t called
2. If I recall correctly, on the same play, another Bama defender dove head first at JD’s back with his head down (crown of helmet) and could/should have been called for targeting.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:28 am to AlextheBodacious
quote:
The bama horse collar wasn’t as obvious, still should’ve been called
Man he bad both hands inside the back of JDs shoulder pads and threw him down. The very definition of a horse collar tackle.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:30 am to zaniesmo12
Yes, everyone saw that. Different rule standards and interpretations apply when you play Alabama.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 9:54 am to zaniesmo12
The one on JD was on a play downfield where, at minimum, three officials would have been in place to see it. They didn't miss it at all. The Bama player pretty much spun him around by the horse collar.
What the corrupt officials were telling Bama was essentially "if you can catch him, you can hurt him. There will be no consequences (again)"
Since Bama clearly couldn't catch him, the only way to cheap shot him was in the pocket. So, that's what they did, and the SEC cheered.
What the corrupt officials were telling Bama was essentially "if you can catch him, you can hurt him. There will be no consequences (again)"
Since Bama clearly couldn't catch him, the only way to cheap shot him was in the pocket. So, that's what they did, and the SEC cheered.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:34 am to zaniesmo12
quote:
Why was Alabama not penalized for the same offense?
The same reason Milroe could yank Burns round by the face mask after being run out of bounds.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 3:11 pm to AlextheBodacious
quote:
The bama horse collar wasn’t as obvious, still should’ve been called.
Were we watching the same game? What I saw was Jayden got snatched by a horse-collar and was then thrown into another player by said horse-collar.
Of the two (one on us, one on them), the Bama one was - BY FAR - the most egregious.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 3:17 pm to ibldprplgld
quote:and yet Alabama is worse than LSU this year in penalties called against them.
And what’s the mechanism to hold them accountable?
CBK: “That was a terrible no call.”
Saban: “I think it was fine.”
SEC: “We’ve reviewed and feel no additional comment is necessary.”
There is your accountability.
And last year, Bama was one of the most penalized teams in the nation (and got screwed in the Tenn game with a terrible PI call at the very end which cost them the game).
Posted on 11/8/23 at 3:23 pm to Big Gorilla
it’s annoying because the tackle in Daniels is the exact kind of tackle the penalty is there to prevent
just like a fricking head injury is the exact kind of injury targeting to trying to prevent.
AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED TALKING ANOUT THE frickING PI THE REFS KEPT MISSING
…I may not be over this loss yet
just like a fricking head injury is the exact kind of injury targeting to trying to prevent.
AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED TALKING ANOUT THE frickING PI THE REFS KEPT MISSING
…I may not be over this loss yet
Posted on 11/8/23 at 4:01 pm to atltiger6487
quote:
and yet Alabama is worse than LSU this year in penalties called against them.
And last year, Bama was one of the most penalized teams in the nation (and got screwed in the Tenn game with a terrible PI call at the very end which cost them the game).
Please, just stop. I don't care how many times the Gumps get penalized, my beef is that they always seem to get that one call (or no-call) at a critical point that changes the outcome of the game.
Over the course of the last decade or two, I've seen so many LSU/Bama games go to the Gumps because of one call - a PI, phantom holding, PF/RTP, whatever. Or, conversely, one no-call that swings the game to them (like five offensive linemen holding at the same time on a TD run to win the game against LSU; don't take my word for it, there's pictures galore proving it).
If Bama lost one game to Tenner last year because of a bad call, then IMO it's an outlier that almost never happens.
So, sorry, but I call shenanigans on your position.
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