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re: Hoops: LSU 90 @ UMASS 92 - Final

Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by Ignignot
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:32 pm to
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fightingtiger2335


don't be sad, you know we'll be ok
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:32 pm to
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This brand of basketball in 2013 is pretty bad to watch

Watch a couple top ten teams in February. You'll see the product of teams adjusting to the new rules, and it will be VERY fun to watch.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:32 pm to
I'm 1/9-ing pretty hard right now.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96017 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:32 pm to
the refs took JOB out of the game. did you see fouls #3 and #4? I'm pretty sure you didnt.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22158 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:32 pm to
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To have players foul less.


By increasing the foul calls. Brilliant.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150805 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:32 pm to
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Hickey is a better scoring threat than Quarterman, but Hickey didn't shoot today.

And he's a better ball handler. And better passer. And better on defense. The only thing Quartermann is better at Hickey in is height. Unfortunately for Hickey, that is important sometimes.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:33 pm to
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The next three full practices should be every player getting on the FT line and shooting hundreds and hundreds of FTs. We should have enough goals for that (4 in the PMAC, 8 in the bball facility?). I'm serious...nonstop FTs for hours on end. We can't leave points on the court like that.

Not a bad idea. You sound like Dale.
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:33 pm to
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When you commit 23 fouls and shoot 60% from the line and lose by 2, it ain't because of the refs


29-23= 6. So let's say those 6 non fouls translate to 12 free throws. They shot 70% so that's between 8-9 MADE free throws. Let's subtract 8 from their score...92-8= 84.

LSU - 90
UMASS- 84

CHAMPIONSHIP
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:33 pm to
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So because someone says it's true, that makes it true....got it. If that's true, I got lots of stuff to sell to you
You yourself said that LSU "committed" 23 fouls. That's too many.
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:33 pm to
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without Jarell the entire game


I missed why Martin was out. Can you explain?
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150805 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:35 pm to
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29-23= 6. So let's say those 6 non fouls translate to 12 free throws. They shot 70% so that's between 8-9 MADE free throws. Let's subtract 8 from their score...92-8= 84.

LSU - 90
UMASS- 84

CHAMPIONSHIP

BTW, I've used logic like that to explain why John Brady could've won like 4 NCs.


(in case you aren't aware, I fricking LOVE me some JB)
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:35 pm to
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the refs took JOB out of the game. did you see fouls #3 and #4? I'm pretty sure you didnt.

I did. It sucked. Doesn't matter if you shoot better than 60% from the line, which even women's teams can do.

When you foul a lot ("conservative" estimates calculate 23 "legit" foul calls against LSU) and shoot poorly from the line, you take the game out of your own hands and have only yourself to blame for a close loss.
Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
3087 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:35 pm to
Out transition defense was awful and our outside shooting was not good but I was impressed with our freshman and there athletic ability.. Going to take awhile to work out the kinks but by mid season I see good things happening
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76683 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:35 pm to
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ballscaster


did you watch the game?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22158 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:35 pm to
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I missed why Martin was out. Can you explain?



He landed awkwardly on his ankle in the first few minutes of the game. At half they said it was a sprained ankle.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96017 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:36 pm to
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I did. It sucked. Doesn't matter if you shoot better than 60% from the line, which even women's teams can do.



actually yes it does matter. making one point (they didnt shoot well from the line) does not negate a completely separate point. which is what you keep trying to do.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:36 pm to
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By increasing the foul calls. Brilliant.

Yes. That's what they'll be doing. They'll be enforcing the rules more tightly, so teams and players will have to hone their defensive skills better if they wish to succeed at basketball. I've been calling for this to happen for years, and now that it is happening, I'm excited about the inevitable direction of the college game.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150805 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:36 pm to
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I did. It sucked. Doesn't matter if you shoot better than 60% from the line, which even women's teams can do.

When you foul a lot ("conservative" estimates calculate 23 "legit" foul calls against LSU) and shoot poorly from the line, you take the game out of your own hands and have only yourself to blame for a close loss.

I get what you're trying to do, but you're being intentionally obtuse at this point. If JOB was in the game (like he should have been), those missed FTs are less important because we have our best player scoring points. That's what you are intentionally forgetting.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:37 pm to
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29-23= 6. So let's say those 6 non fouls translate to 12 free throws. They shot 70% so that's between 8-9 MADE free throws. Let's subtract 8 from their score...92-8= 84.

LSU - 90
UMASS- 84

CHAMPIONSHIP
Pure sissy talk. In sports, you take care of your own business first before you bitch about something somebody else does. So if you're LSU, you work on your free throws so you don't have to worry about the possible effect of a few bad calls in a 2-point loss next time.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22158 posts
Posted on 11/12/13 at 12:38 pm to
You said yourself earlier in the thread that this will bring back the nonexistent mid-range jumper. After watching this game, it seems as though every team should be driving the ball to the basket, initiating contact and getting to the line, thereby eliminating the mid-range jumper all together.
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