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Posted on 1/15/12 at 9:43 am to Dalosaqy
This line said it all for me:
"Lee finished with the No. 1 passing efficiency rating in the SEC at 152 and has been invited to two All-Star games. Jefferson finished with a 138.7 rating and will not play in the NFL unless Miles becomes an NFL coach."
"Lee finished with the No. 1 passing efficiency rating in the SEC at 152 and has been invited to two All-Star games. Jefferson finished with a 138.7 rating and will not play in the NFL unless Miles becomes an NFL coach."
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 9:47 am
Posted on 1/15/12 at 9:46 am to XKEnut
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Lee finished with the No. 1 passing efficiency rating in the SEC at 152 and has been invited to two All-Star games. Jefferson finished with a 138.7 rating and will not play in the NFL unless Miles becomes an NFL coach.?
Yep, Lee MIGHT have a shot in the pros,.....JJ is probably going to be delivering my furniture in a few years.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:06 am to Carlos Santannaclaus
Some people on this board is like a lawyer defending a client that is caught on camera doing his crime. You just watched a video; I want you to know what you just observed is not what happened. You need to listen to what I’m telling you and not your lying eyes.
People keep saying Miles will learn. My question is at what expense? How many times does he need to be waxed to learn to prepare from start to finish, or to let the coordinators run the show. Throw the wins and loses on the table to support Miles all you want. I will tell you that his record is very impressive too. You cannot defend that cluster fu&% coaching job he pulled last Monday night. 14-0 was starring him in the face and he could not get it done.
Mile stuck with Jamie Howard II and cost his team a fighting chance to win the 2011 NC. He had no excuse and there is not a miles fan that can justify that pitiful coaching performance when he is paid $3+ million. There should be a clause to payback bonus money for such a pathetic performance. That is the loser not the poster.
People keep saying Miles will learn. My question is at what expense? How many times does he need to be waxed to learn to prepare from start to finish, or to let the coordinators run the show. Throw the wins and loses on the table to support Miles all you want. I will tell you that his record is very impressive too. You cannot defend that cluster fu&% coaching job he pulled last Monday night. 14-0 was starring him in the face and he could not get it done.
Mile stuck with Jamie Howard II and cost his team a fighting chance to win the 2011 NC. He had no excuse and there is not a miles fan that can justify that pitiful coaching performance when he is paid $3+ million. There should be a clause to payback bonus money for such a pathetic performance. That is the loser not the poster.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:09 am to Bushwackers
shite JJ needed the dumbed down version of LSU's playbook and still couldn't execute. Could you imagine what would happen if he went to the NFL and they tossed the 100 page book in his lap and asked him to learn it? 
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:12 am to Carlos Santannaclaus
quote:
It's hard to argue that 20-20 hindsight is easy. It's easy to be a Monday morning QB. It's easy to criticize others after a failure. Miles will do his post-mortem and learn from it.
rational response, followed by
quote:
You're a loser with no life. Get one.
y u mad tho? Lol
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:29 am to Dalosaqy
Les is a liar, and I hope GG doesn't let up on him.
I don't like the whole "who was a slightly better QB" through comparison of stats angle though. The real key is that Miles changed THE ENTIRE OFFENSE into some retarded version of Oklahoma & Nebraska from the 1980s to build around the strengths of a single player that everyone knew was not very good. Regardless of how good you think Lee was, LSU should have been running the type of offense it had when Lee was in the game--i.e., the same kind of offense that it could have run with Mettenberger.
If you are really in love with JJ and want to do a few drives a game with his options skills, fine, but I think everyone with even a shred of football knowledge realizes that such an offense should not be the MAIN offense for a team at an elite level. Why? Because against great defenses, it will get absolutely stuffed, and you need to work consistently at the pro-style passing game to get good at it.
Miles lied to the fanbase continuously for 3 consecutive years, and he did so because he felt morally superior to us, such that he wanted to spit in our eye and rub in the fact that he could play JJ no matter what. He put his own ego trip before the team and the program, and that is what is so unforgivable.
It's a black mark that will never go away until he gives a full apology, which he never will, so it will never go away.
I don't like the whole "who was a slightly better QB" through comparison of stats angle though. The real key is that Miles changed THE ENTIRE OFFENSE into some retarded version of Oklahoma & Nebraska from the 1980s to build around the strengths of a single player that everyone knew was not very good. Regardless of how good you think Lee was, LSU should have been running the type of offense it had when Lee was in the game--i.e., the same kind of offense that it could have run with Mettenberger.
If you are really in love with JJ and want to do a few drives a game with his options skills, fine, but I think everyone with even a shred of football knowledge realizes that such an offense should not be the MAIN offense for a team at an elite level. Why? Because against great defenses, it will get absolutely stuffed, and you need to work consistently at the pro-style passing game to get good at it.
Miles lied to the fanbase continuously for 3 consecutive years, and he did so because he felt morally superior to us, such that he wanted to spit in our eye and rub in the fact that he could play JJ no matter what. He put his own ego trip before the team and the program, and that is what is so unforgivable.
It's a black mark that will never go away until he gives a full apology, which he never will, so it will never go away.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:31 am to Doc Fenton
I'm glad Les is our coach. Best coach in LSU history.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:32 am to LSUFAN2
I ask you to apply Occam's razor to your post, and ask yourself WHY miles stuck with JJ, (making 99% of us vomit in our mouths).
Was it that :
1. He wrongly believed that JJ's "dual threat" capability (combined with JL's poor footwork and penchant for throwing INT's against Bama) gave him the best chance at victory.
OR
2. Insert unproveable theory here.
That's all I'm saying. Miles had a belief, a gut feeling and he went with that. There doesn't have to be anything nefarious or conspiratorial. We are just speculating, and frankly some of the speculation is pretty pathetic.
Was it that :
1. He wrongly believed that JJ's "dual threat" capability (combined with JL's poor footwork and penchant for throwing INT's against Bama) gave him the best chance at victory.
OR
2. Insert unproveable theory here.
That's all I'm saying. Miles had a belief, a gut feeling and he went with that. There doesn't have to be anything nefarious or conspiratorial. We are just speculating, and frankly some of the speculation is pretty pathetic.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:33 am to Doc Fenton
I will never let up on him until an explanation is given. How in the hell could he let this team go down without a fight. Lousy play calling and the total disregard for players wanting to play in the last game of their careers. Its easy to say Alabama had the best defense when you gave them NOTHING to defend. I have lost confidence and respect for the man who will be here for years to come, here's hoping he surrounds himself with better coaches to get the job done
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:38 am to Roaad
No amount of winning will excuse his actions.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:42 am to Pankins
Lotta raw nerves around here. To be expected after a tough loss.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:43 am to Roaad
quote:He quite obviously based upon results and recruiting is a good college football coach.
I'm glad Les is our coach. Best coach in LSU history.
He also demonstrated that his supposedly good character is so much hokum. He repeatedly lied this year and then, demonstrated a level of disrespect towards a player who had stuck by him that I didn't even know a coach was capable of doing.
Character matters and we've gotten a window into Miles' real character(rather than the packed up BS) and it wasn't a pretty sight.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:46 am to Doc Fenton
quote:This is where his defenders miss the boat.
No amount of winning will excuse his actions.
LSU fans are CONSTANTLY throwing darts at coaches like Petrino, Carroll and Saban for their character issues and yet, frankly, Miles beat the frick out of their character issues this year and suddenly, character doesn't matter?
No. Character matters. Miles can win his next 100 and all that will mean is we have a winning coach of low character. They two are mutually exclusive.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:48 am to ShortyRob
quote:
Character matters. Miles can win his next 100 and all that will mean is we have a winning coach of low character.
Spot on.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:48 am to Lsupimp
quote:I hope you realize that your Occam's razor choices can be restated as
I ask you to apply Occam's razor to your post, and ask yourself WHY miles stuck with JJ, (making 99% of us vomit in our mouths).
1)He was functionally retarded
2)Something more nefarious.
I don't think Miles is stupid.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:49 am to ShortyRob
Never really thought of it that way, but you are right in the grand scheme of things and talking about character issues we certainly need to keep our mouths shut about people like Saban, Carroll and Petrino . We are certainly the pot calling the kettle black, Even Miles admits that he is "deceptively Honest" whatever the frick that means.
This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:50 am to windhammontanatigers
quote:All coaches are deceptive with the fans. I can live with that for the most part.
We are certainly the pot calling the kettle blace, Even Miles admits that he is "deceptively Honest" whatever the frick that means.
But, it is pretty fricking obvious that he was deceptive with at least one of his players too cause something tells me that if he'd told JL had no fricking chance EVER to overcome the stigma of 2008, JL would've transferred.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:51 am to Doc Fenton
Doc Fenton, this was a great post...
quote:
Les is a liar, and I hope GG doesn't let up on him. I don't like the whole "who was a slightly better QB" through comparison of stats angle though. The real key is that Miles changed THE ENTIRE OFFENSE into some retarded version of Oklahoma & Nebraska from the 1980s to build around the strengths of a single player that everyone knew was not very good. Regardless of how good you think Lee was, LSU should have been running the type of offense it had when Lee was in the game--i.e., the same kind of offense that it could have run with Mettenberger. If you are really in love with JJ and want to do a few drives a game with his options skills, fine, but I think everyone with even a shred of football knowledge realizes that such an offense should not be the MAIN offense for a team at an elite level. Why? Because against great defenses, it will get absolutely stuffed, and you need to work consistently at the pro-style passing game to get good at it. Miles lied to the fanbase continuously for 3 consecutive years, and he did so because he felt morally superior to us, such that he wanted to spit in our eye and rub in the fact that he could play JJ no matter what. He put his own ego trip before the team and the program, and that is what is so unforgivable. It's a black mark that will never go away until he gives a full apology, which he never will, so it will never go away.
Posted on 1/15/12 at 10:53 am to Carlos Santannaclaus
quote:
It's hard to argue that 20-20 hindsight is easy. It's easy to be a Monday morning QB. It's easy to criticize others after a failure.
I don't think this is about hindsight. Considering what happened the first half in the SEC Championship Game you could see this coming. Why didn't Miles see it coming?
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