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re: Haters going to hate and I don't understand why!
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:30 pm to Macavity92
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:30 pm to Macavity92
There is still not a whole lot of win in there for any one.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:31 pm to tigerwith3
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And what is O going to do when Aranda bolts when O becomes head coach? Aranda isn't sticking with O as HC.
The only way Aranda leaves is for a HC position. CEO made him the associate head coach in addition to being the defensive coordinator. I'm sure that came with a nice raise.
For Aranda to leave for another DC position the other school would have to buy out his contract in addition to paying him more than he will make at LSU.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:32 pm to broadcaster
If he wins out and we cant get fisher hire him on a 2 to 3 year deal.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:35 pm to Brazos
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But what if he doesn't hire a good OC? Do we just say "oh well at least he can cook etouffee like mamma cooks it".
LSU's offense has looked pretty decent with a TE's coach as the offensive coordinator. Don't see how he couldn't improve on that. If he doesn't he can always promote SE again.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:41 pm to Macintosh504
that qc development needs to be done by the oc.head coach
needs to manage all phases
needs to manage all phases
Posted on 11/13/16 at 2:54 pm to dannyz68
just because a lot of folks aren't willing ot buy into your premise that Da Coach O is qualified to be hired as a HC at a major program, doesn't mean they hate him.
To the contrary, it seems to me that the common wisdom is that Coach O is a great motivator of players recruited and developed under Miles. The new regime seems to be getting more out of these players than Miles himself, but that does not mean O could have put together this team or the coaches responsible for the improved result.
In fact, I seriously doubt Aranda could have been hired by a HC like Da Coach O.
I hope we hire the best HC available and he keeps Aranda and Orgeron. In that order.
To the contrary, it seems to me that the common wisdom is that Coach O is a great motivator of players recruited and developed under Miles. The new regime seems to be getting more out of these players than Miles himself, but that does not mean O could have put together this team or the coaches responsible for the improved result.
In fact, I seriously doubt Aranda could have been hired by a HC like Da Coach O.
I hope we hire the best HC available and he keeps Aranda and Orgeron. In that order.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:08 pm to broadcaster
Nobody hates Coach O & I don't think anyone has posted as much. He's a great guy, a great motivator, a great recruiter, & has proven to be a great interim HC. LSU appreciates all of that but what LSU needs is a PROVEN HC, preferably an OFFENSIVES MINDED HC. LSU can't make the emotional call & give the job to Coach O because he's the "favorite son". LSU needs to make a statement with a hire that lets recruits know that LSU is going after the missing link to go with the traditional championship caliber defenses. I hope they find a place for him on the new staff but I don't think it will be, or should be, as HC.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:15 pm to TIGERFANZZ
You gotta wonder what kind of message it sends to top level recruits from surrounding states if we hire a head coach b/c he's a Cajun, despite him not being wholly qualified.
A top out of state recruit would be justified in wondering if such home cooking would keep him off the field in favor of a less talented Louisiana kid...
You don't suppose other schools would negative recruit on this basis, do you?
A top out of state recruit would be justified in wondering if such home cooking would keep him off the field in favor of a less talented Louisiana kid...
You don't suppose other schools would negative recruit on this basis, do you?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:19 pm to nitwit
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You gotta wonder what kind of message it sends to top level recruits from surrounding states if we hire a head coach b/c he's a Cajun, despite him not being wholly qualified.
A top out of state recruit would be justified in wondering if such home cooking would keep him off the field in favor of a less talented Louisiana kid...
You don't suppose other schools would negative recruit on this basis, do you?
I'm a fan who didn't grow up in Louisiana. I was born there and my entire family is from there.
I can tell you that I can not understand the "O's one of us" thing. We have fans and recruits abroad. I get liking the guy, but making this a factor in the decision whether or not to hire him full time is just bizarre to me.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:22 pm to tigerwith3
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And what is O going to do when Aranda bolts when O becomes head coach? Aranda isn't sticking with O as HC
And you know this how? Are you talking out of your arse? Yeah
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:38 pm to broadcaster
And what if CEO pulls his bestie Lane to LSU from under Nick's nose?
Would that be a staff or what? Miles never had that caliber of staff before.
I say that is all comes down to winning out. Let him earn the job and if he does, then hope that he gets someone like Kiffen for OC.
Would that be a staff or what? Miles never had that caliber of staff before.
I say that is all comes down to winning out. Let him earn the job and if he does, then hope that he gets someone like Kiffen for OC.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 3:56 pm to Hooligan's Ghost
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LSU may wind up in the top 10 and fire their coach
We did fire our coach. O is a fill in.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:06 pm to broadcaster
Would Ed orgeron be the in contention for the HC at bama, usc, Michigan n ohio state , or fsu?
The endless love for Ed Orgeron is mindblowing.
He is a career position coach and you people want to hire him because he sounds like you.
The endless love for Ed Orgeron is mindblowing.
He is a career position coach and you people want to hire him because he sounds like you.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:08 pm to bencoleman
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And you know this how? Are you talking out of your arse? Yeah
Because Aranda was HIRED to be Orgeron's boss. Not take orders from a less successful coach. Aranda's resume is better than Orgeron's.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:23 pm to Rickdaddy4188
If Herman says no, O will certainly be in the mix. His only opportunity is to present what his offensive scheme will be. We can keep saying that he's working with Miles' offense, but what is his style that will get us past Bama?
That will probably be the biggest factor. Even if he gets the job, if he doesn't do well there will be more coaches in position to go for this job.
Frost would have had a few years to prove himself at UCF. Chip Kelly will probably be out at San Fran. Fedora should be allowed to interview. Frank Wilson would have had time to prove he can build and run a program. There is a chance Herman says no.
That will probably be the biggest factor. Even if he gets the job, if he doesn't do well there will be more coaches in position to go for this job.
Frost would have had a few years to prove himself at UCF. Chip Kelly will probably be out at San Fran. Fedora should be allowed to interview. Frank Wilson would have had time to prove he can build and run a program. There is a chance Herman says no.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:31 pm to airfernando
Everything they are doing is better. The false start penalties, undisciplined play, etc, etc has all been better over the past few games....and getting better all the time. The game preparation is better. Players are more motivated. They are fresher. Yes, we got shut out against Bama. They are thought to have one of the best defenses of all time, and despite what they say, they prepare and get up for that game like no other. Literally every single metric you can look at has improved tremendously since O took over. That's not just playing with someone else's team. That's making that team better, and in many cases elite. Every position group....every facet has gotten better. In just 5 weeks, without having a full spring or summer to implement his regiment. Does anyone actually think with the improvements we've seen that they won't continue to get even better under his watch? Especially if he can bring in a good offensive coordinator who specializes in QB development?
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:43 pm to Fratigerguy
I think OC is the biggest concern with making O the main man. He came out and said he only wants Pro-style QB's which eliminates a large group of QB's out there.
Then, after he saw Bama with a true mobile QB, he's back open to DT and Pro-Style QB's. He has to make a decision. That will be the biggest factor in my opinion.
Then, after he saw Bama with a true mobile QB, he's back open to DT and Pro-Style QB's. He has to make a decision. That will be the biggest factor in my opinion.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 4:49 pm to Macintosh504
You are so stupid you just made a case against fisher. He has top 5 classes yes, and Clemson is the only other acc team in the top 29 ttheof titaootitttt recruiting over the last five years, come ng in at 16....yet jimbo has lost seven games in two years, with a 40 and 50 point loss. Lmao....much more talented than everyone else and still getting beat.
This post was edited on 11/13/16 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The endless love for Ed Orgeron is mindblowing.
He is a career position coach and you people want to hire him because he sounds like you.
you're right, Rick. They overlook the 3-21 in conference at Ole Miss and want O because of his accent. Unbelieveable.
Posted on 11/13/16 at 6:59 pm to Tiger Ree
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LSU's offense has looked pretty decent with a TE's coach as the offensive coordinator. Don't see how he couldn't improve on that.
Because more times than not coordinator hires arent successful. Thats why. Its like you fans really think Ed orgeron is the guy. We fired les miles to hire a 55 years old career dline coach and there are lsu fans wanting this. This fan base has gone full retard.
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