re: Gymnastics- SEC CHAMPS! 198.075! DD&#39;S FIRST SEC TOURNEY TITLE!

Posted by Relham10

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Posted on 3/19/17 at 4:48 pm to TigerBait55

Awesome. Hope they keep the momentum

Posted by Tiger in Texas

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Posted on 3/19/17 at 6:05 pm to TigerBait55

Best team on campus, that's for sure!!

Posted by Tigerbait357

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Posted on 3/19/17 at 6:18 pm to Relham10

I am so pumped about this post season. As crazy as it sounds, I still think we can be better. On vault I think we are in a great position. Ruby Harrold to me has locked down that last spot on vault. She delivers every time on vault. Edney when she hits will give us a huge score. Ewing has been looking better on vault lately. Finnegan's technique is impeccable.

Bars, we really are improving a bunch, the form is a thousand times better. Zamardi I know she rarely sticks but if she just gives a clean routine, should have at least 9.85 which is good lead off for us. Ruby has a miscue when she tried to attack the handstand too hard and her momentum carried her over. If she doesn't fall, we have about a 9.875 or 9.900 score. Finnegan, Edney, and Priessman all can give us 9.900 scores on bars. Edney just missed a handstand. If Finnegan sticks we are looking at 9.900+

Beam, is the only thing that concerns me this post season. No matter how good you are on beam, just being slightly off can just ruin it. Macadaeg if she that last series was looking at a 9.95, it was a great routine, she was just slightly off.

Floor we are just pretty consistent, I am only concerned about Hambrick second tumbling pass. She has been a little inconsistent on it this year. Kelley definitely will start earning 10's by next season. She has improved a lot on her form and her switch leaps. I still think Finnegan is getting underscored on her floor routines, she has great control on all her landings. Zamardi if she can have a little better control on the double Arabian she she be able to get a 9.95 easy, everything else is clean and perfect pretty much.

Posted by 31TIGERS

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Posted on 3/19/17 at 7:05 pm to Tigerbait357

Nice post! Appreciate your insight and keep it coming.

Posted by cra_cra

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Posted on 3/19/17 at 9:03 pm to Tigerbait357

As proud as I am of our tigers, it is going to take a miracle to beat Oklahoma.

LSU is gonna have to be at their best, error free, and "hope" Oklahoma has a few miscues here and there. They are number 1 for a reason. Maggie Nichols had nearly a perfect night in all events when she faced us (and she's just a freshman). 39.925 in the all-around is simply unbelievable.

Both teams will likely equal out on vault and floor. So it will be all about who can have the fewest errors on bars and beam and Oklahoma certainly has the edge there.

Posted by Tigerbait357

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Posted on 3/19/17 at 9:58 pm to cra_cra

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As proud as I am of our tigers, it is going to take a miracle to beat Oklahoma.

I will be honest, I have watched OU this entire season and I still think they have the best team going into regionals but I disagree with this. Ever since we saw them at the Mardi Gras meet, they haven't been quite as sharp. They have been having lots of small miscues. Yes they do have Maggie and she is the best gymnast in the country but it all depends on what happens the day of the meet. I have seen so many years of certain gymnasts and teams who are dominant during the season not be on their game for super six. Keep in mind the semi final is the day before. Its a quick turnaround and its a pretty intense environment, there is a lot going on. With everything on the line I have seen a lot happen, between falls on beam, falling off bars, stumbling on a tumbling pass. At this point in time the LSU team you have seen since the Florida meet is every bit as good as the OU team.

We will definitely need our best meet of the season to win. Even Florida is in the running, they are extremely talented as well and are capable of putting up just as big of numbers. I would have to give us the edge in vaulting but where this meet comes down to is how well we compete on bars and getting those extra points off beam.

I am serious its anyones come super six meet, LSU OU and UF could all have major meltdowns and Alabma or some random other team could win

This post was edited on 3/19/17 at 10:06 pm

Posted by Gris Gris

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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:07 am to TigerBait55

FANTASTIC TIGERS!!!

Posted by TaserTiger

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Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:45 am to cra_cra

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As proud as I am of our tigers, it is going to take a miracle to beat Oklahoma.

LSU is gonna have to be at their best, error free, and "hope" Oklahoma has a few miscues here and there. They are number 1 for a reason. Maggie Nichols had nearly a perfect night in all events when she faced us (and she's just a freshman). 39.925 in the all-around is simply unbelievable.

Puhleeze - tuck it in on the difference between these two teams. Maggie Nichols is just one of the players on OU's team. Yes, the other players are pretty damn good also. Yes, that's why they are #1.

Nichols is just one of their team members (albeit their best). A team sport like this pretty much requires contribution from all (or 5 of 6) of your players in each of 4 events per meet. Them's the rules, hehe.

LSU Lady Tigers just proved that they can handle super pressure packed situations in several events. They can and will do it again.

"it is going to take a miracle to beat Oklahoma." Really? A miracle? You think Oklahoma is somehow immune to nerves in each or every event if one of their earlier teammates scores low due to a miscue/fall/flop? Nope. Pressure is on everyone. Each time. Every time.

You saw LSU face pressure in 2 events in SEC Championship meet. They handled it well. Florida is an excellent team. They did super great as well. They almost beat LSU's super excellent score to win the SEC Championship meet. Very close score for Florida indeed (almost 198.0).

Florida, however, did not do so well their previous regular season meet vs. LSU when several of their ladies fell off the beam or missed on bars. LSU "pounded" them by about 2 points. Happens to everyone. This can even happen to Oklahoma.

Up for grabs. Regionals are a new meet for all top teams in which LSU and OU should easily advance. Still??? Semis and Finals, however, are a new ballgame played on back to back days.

We shall see. Still - "a miracle". C'mon man. I may not be an "expert" at this sport, but I have played many sports and I know we all have nerves that can make or break our individual "game". Each and every "game". Each and every time.

Hang in there. LSU can do this...

Posted by rmnldr

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Posted on 3/20/17 at 4:00 am to TaserTiger

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LSU Lady Tigers

Just say Fighting Tigers.

Posted by BigB0882

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:48 am to TigerBait55

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The audacity of some Florida fans to say LSU was undeserving and overscored. I will be honest, I thought Ewing and Hambrick was a tad high on beam, but nothing outrageous.

Ewing was over-scored in a big way on beam but it isn't as if LSU won by .025 or as if all other scores were perfect. McMurtry was gifted a 9.95 for just showing up. Her vault is impeccable but she had a hop and was off balance. The 9.95 was simple for doing the double full. That would NEVER be a 9.95 at Nationals. On floor she kinda stumbled out of her triple full and scored 9.95 Not a crazy score for one tiny miscue but it tied her for the floor title with some routines that had no errors. Then on beam she had the same mistake as Ewing where she was leaning to the side and her leg came up PLUS the tiniest shuffle back on her dismount and she scored 9.9 So Ewing with a beam mistakes, 9.875, McMurtry with a beam mistake, 9.9 It evens out. Florida simply was not sticking enough to catch us. I honestly think the score was closer than the meet actually was. Florida benefited from not having any falls or big breaks so they built their scores a little better.

I do think we can beat OU but it will take near perfection. Nichols is key to OU as she is a 9.95 or 10 on every routine. When your team total is counting on that, it is huge. A slip-up from her and going even 9.85 is them throwing away a tenth they were absolutely counting on.

Posted by Grim

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 1:41 pm to BigB0882

This team seems to perform best under pressure, and that's huge. I like our chances vs OU

Posted by BunnieGene

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:14 pm to BigB0882

Thank you for pointing out the *generous* scores for other routines with mistakes. I'm ready to move on from Ewing's beam score

And I agree with you about feeling the scores were closer than the performances would indicate... I was obviously concentrating on LSU's floor routines, but I still would look over for Florida's vaults and during the meet was relieved to see they weren't sticking...When I had time later to look at the scores more closely I was stunned that their vault total was within .05 of ours...and they had one fewer 10 SV!

Posted by Tigerbait357

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 2:20 pm to BunnieGene

I was looking at our scores from the SEC Championship, I am in shock one of Ewings score on beam was a 9.95, either there was an error or the judge wasn't paying attention, I mean that is really bad. Also for Edney's beam routine, 3 of the 4 judges gave her a 9.900 and then one judge gave her a 9.750 I definitely thing Florida got some favorable scores on vault I thought was a little generous at times. A lot of them were landing completely off center from the vault, that should incur a small deduction.

Posted by BigB0882

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:14 pm to BunnieGene

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And I agree with you about feeling the scores were closer than the performances would indicate... I was obviously concentrating on LSU's floor routines, but I still would look over for Florida's vaults and during the meet was relieved to see they weren't sticking...When I had time later to look at the scores more closely I was stunned that their vault total was within .05 of ours...and they had one fewer 10 SV!

I actually sat down when I got home and judged every Florida routine. I judged in .025 increments to keep it closer to actual scoring and I had Florida at a 197.650 That is 2 tenths below where they ended up. The majority of that came from floor and vault. They were simply way over-scored on those events. But again, this is Florida and they receive the benefit of the doubt more than any team in the SEC at the moment. It was also the final 2 rotations and scores had begun going out of control. Things were actually quite fair until the 4th gymnast on floor and it all went crazy from there with McMurtry's 9.95 on floor. It forced them to chose between giving Boren the same score or just below (they split that decision so she went 9.925) and it forced them to give Baker the same score so she wouldn't lose to an inferior routine, but no one was going to throw her a 10 so they had to give her a 9.95 So it all started with McMurtry. If they had given her a 9.9 then the other scores would have been adjusted down just a bit, I can promise.

I am going to sit and judge LSU later but it will be hard to be objective when it is "my" team and when I have already seen their routines. I only had seen a few of the UF routines before judging.

Posted by Dave lsu 89

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:16 pm to Tigerbait357

thIS IS THE YEAR ( I HOPE) BUGGS AND TEAM CAPTURE THAT TITLE!!!!!

Posted by BigB0882

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 5:23 pm to BigB0882

Oh, and I can't explain the one judge giving Ewing a 9.95 on beam. It had to have been an error. Did they look down as she wobbled? Did they just hit in the wrong score? I don't know. But did anyone notice that one judge gave Gnat a 10 on beam? One judge also gave McMurtry a 9.85 on vault. Some judges are watching but you can follow that judge and see that they ignore flaws for certain gymnasts and not for others and there doesn't always seem to be a pattern (not always the same team). Maybe it has to do with their angle and how bad an error looked to them compared to the judges on the other side and even next to them.

Posted by BunnieGene

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:24 pm to BigB0882

I did notice that 10 for Gnat...had to be a first for her, even if it was ultimately dropped...

Ewing I have no idea...glad that score was dropped as well, not that it would've mattered anyway...

I think your Florida total is more in line with what I saw, both in person and the broadcast... it used to be the "Gymdawg Bonus"... it's obviously been passed on to Florida...if it must exist I hope we get it next

Posted by TigerBait55

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Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:31 pm to BigB0882

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I am going to sit and judge LSU later but it will be hard to be objective when it is "my" team and when I have already seen their routines. I only had seen a few of the UF routines before judging.

I would have taken every single Floor routine by LSU over Florida from Saturday. Sydney & Sarah were underscored. I would love to see the deduction from Bugs's routine.

Vault was hilarious because McMurtry received a 9.95 without a stick, which was the same score as Ruby who stuck her vault cold. It is annoying, but hopefully it will all straighten itself out soon.

LSU was the best team in the Jacksonville on Saturday. That is not up for debate.

This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 6:37 pm