re: Good read on LSU and Les Miles, Fear the Hat!!

what a well written article. Very moving, IMO.

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"Jordan Jefferson showed great signs of maturing and actually had a pretty solid year (137.2 passer rating, 61.5 completion, 2,166 yards, 17 TDs)."

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If this is true, why do we still hear that one of the biggest reasons our Offense was sooooo bad was b/c of a young QB??

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"With another offseason to study and develop in Crowton’s offense"

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ugh....

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"with weapons like Russell Shepard, Richard Murphy, Ruben Randall, Terrance Tolliver, Michael Ford, Spencer Ware, and Stevan Ridley to share the ball with, the Tigers could have one of the most potent offenses in the country in 2010."

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he had most of those weapons, along with Lafell, Scott, Keiland, and Trindon last year and our offense was what, 112th???? I like to be optimistic too, but come on....

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"The defense should very well get back to LSU dominant standards, with preseason lock for All-American Patrick Peterson and returning seniors like Kelvin Shepard—who bypassed the NFL to come back for some unfinished business—leading the way and Craig Loston—last years No. 1 defensive prospect in the nation—Sam Montgomery, Lavar Edwards, Kyle Pratter, Thaj Jones, and many other four- and five-star athletes throughout the depth chart."

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Bend but don't break is NOT a dominant defense... please show me a bend but don't break defense that was "dominant"... or maybe our definitions of "dominate" are a little different.. I think Chavis was definately a huge upgrade from what we had, but I don't see his coaching style as dominant...

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"Bottom line, there was a real reason(s) why LSU experienced a brief (two-year) rebuild, and it wasn’t because Miles or Crowton suddenly forgot how to coach."

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If you're going to give him credit for the Natl Championship, the you have to place the blame at his feet when we don't meet expectations...

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"he is beloved by his players and assistants, and he is well-respected in the coaching community."

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fail on both counts... as a person? probably. as a coach? fail...

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"Trust me, if you decide to come to LSU you will not need to fear the Hat, opposing coaches do that!"

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not the last couple of years....

Good Read!

Let me preface my main point by saying that this is not the time to replace Les. Although I agree that Les is not the coach that Saban has proven to be, he is a good coach that will get us back to championship form if we have patience. What these totally negative so called fans don't remember is that during the 2004 season people were coming down hard on Saban. In their minds Saban's overbearing ways were going to ruin the program.

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he is a good coach that will get us back to championship form if we have patience.

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I totally disagree with this, but firing him right now isn't the answer either.

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What these totally negative so called fans don't remember is that during the 2004 season people were coming down hard on Saban. In their minds Saban's overbearing ways were going to ruin the program.

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some may have been.. i wasn't one of them... after where the program had been and watching what Saban did with this team.. I wasn't happy with the way '04 went but I had confidence in the coach. I never questioned whether he knew what he was doing..

Miles, not so much on the confidence.. Less may be a good man, but I don't have confidence in his player development or game management skills....

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Actually you are completely wrong:

Do you actually think another coach would come out and say "Less is a bad coach, and we enjoy him being at LSU"? Come on they will all say he's a good coach, and they respect him.. its what they say "off the record" or "behind closed doors"...

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Ok so let me get this straight - I assume that because it is behind closed doors or off the record there is no way to substantiate these claims.

That is a convenient way to win arguments -

" I know I am right because of x, y and z , though I don't have proof for any of this because it was said off the record and I have no links, audio clipping or video recordings to prove it"

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Completely false.

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Among coaches he is. That's why he is able to get guys from other teams like Tennessee (prior to Kiffin bolting) and Florida. They know he cares about their careers and growth as coaches. Where's your proof other than media opinion that he's not?

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I just don't see how anyone can say he is a Saban or Meyer caliber of a coach. That is ridiculous

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Yeah, I can see how a 3-5 record against those two would lead you to believe he can't beat them.

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. He has proven he can beat bad and average teams.

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Yeah, like #1 Ohio St and # 4 VTech and #7 Fla and 5 teams that finished in the top 15 in 07 and on......

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you are satisfied with winning 8 or 9 games a year Les will give you this all day long.

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Yeah, like 51 wins in 5 yrs equate to 8 wins a season.

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How many coaches in the country could coach LSU and get Les Miles results?

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I don't know. You tell me how many coaches LSU had with 51 wins in 5 yrs, 2 SEC championship games, a 27-13 SEC mark, 3 Top 5 finishes, 4 finishes in the top 17 in 5 yrs, and a NC???

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LSU had two of the best coordinators—Bo Pelini and Gary Crowton—working under Miles,




And I am suppose to take this article seriously after that quote? 110 teams had better offenses then us, of which 100+ had less talent, and we are going to pretend our co-ordinator is one of the best? Seriously now.

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Way to totally miss the point.

The article is talking about LSU after the 2007 season, when Crowton was considered one of the best offensive minds in the country and had just led the Tigers to scoring more points than any team in School history....

Let's don't revise history or the point based on today's knee jerk reactionism!