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re: Getting bored with Mainieri
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:40 am to RB10
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:40 am to RB10
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How much does he regret running off Zardon and Byrd at this point?
probably not much. Zardon isn't exactly tearing the cover off the ball in Juco right now and was a liability in the field. And I will never understand the infatuation with Byrd. What did he do last year that excited anyone? Who would he be playing in front of this season? A .212 batting average and 1 extra base hit on the season. He wouldn't be playing much this year either, which is probably why he left.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 11:42 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:42 am to lsu2006
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Use your words.
Saying he probably doesn't miss two guys that had more at bats than all but two players on the roster this year is beyond stupid, and doesn't really deserve a response, to be honest.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:45 am to RB10
Notice how I said "probably not much". I didn't say he didn't miss them at all. Of course you'd like to have as many potential contributors as possible. But neither to date have proven to be a huge loss that would certainly displace a current contributor in our lineup. One of them still isn't even eligible to play. If you can show me that Zardon is straight raking and tearing up JUCO I'll maybe eat my words. What if Byrd comes out and falls flat on his face next year at Clemson?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:47 am to lsufball19
What you're saying two guys who saw a lot of time as true freshman wouldn't be valuable on this years roster?
This place never ceases to amaze. The same people using some sort of "rebuilding" excuse are the ones who spin Zardon and Byrd leaving as something that's not a negative.
This place never ceases to amaze. The same people using some sort of "rebuilding" excuse are the ones who spin Zardon and Byrd leaving as something that's not a negative.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:50 am to lsu2006
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But neither to date have proven to be a huge loss that would certainly displace a current contributor in our lineup.
You're seriously going to try and tell me that Zardon wouldn't be a better option than Reid or that Byrd wouldn't be a better 2nd bat off the bench than Wofford or Breaux?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:52 am to minvielle
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Not to mention Lange was arguably the best pitcher in the country, throwing to the best catcher in the country, with the best shortstop in the country, and the best outfield in the country. I know this is subjective but man I really think that team should have brought home a title.
I agree with this. But in CPM's defense, it all came apart when Poche couldn't complete the throws to first. Kind of unforeseen, that.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:53 am to RB10
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What you're saying two guys who saw a lot of time as true freshman wouldn't be valuable on this years roster?
sure they'd be nice to have on the roster, but I don't believe either of them would be starting or playing very much. I simply believe the guys we have are better than them. Cole Freeman is a juco transfer with more collegiate experience than either one of them, and he's been a very productive player for us. Zardon is batting .329 currently in NAIA. Kid had a poor attitude and wanted a guaranteed starting spot this year. He didn't produce well enough last year to get that type guarantee.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:54 am to animator73
Vandy has lost their last two SEC series and no Vandy fans are calling for Corbin's head. Either they don't care or we have some idiots for fans.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:54 am to lsufball19
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sure they'd be nice to have on the roster, but I don't believe either of them would be starting or playing very much
See above. You really don't think he'd be starting at third right now?
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Kid had a poor attitude and wanted a guaranteed starting spot this year.
Let's not act like CPM didn't drag the kid through the mud on more than one occasion last year. He may have had a poor attitude towards the coach, but it wasn't exactly unwarranted.
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:55 am to RB10
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Byrd wouldn't be a better 2nd bat off the bench than Wofford or Breaux?
what did Byrd do last year that makes you think he'd have been any better than Wofford. And since when has Breaux been the 2nd bat of the bench? He has the fewest at bats of anyone on the team.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:56 am to lsufball19
Zardon isnt even playing JUCO, he's at a Div 2 school. He's hitting for power but playing against guys that will be play beer league softball next year
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:57 am to RB10
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You really don't think he'd be starting at third right now?
his fielding was a huge liability last year. Mainieri places a pretty large emphasis on defense, always has. So no, I don't this he definitely would have been starting at 3rd this year
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:57 am to RB10
I think PM has the best baseball environment in the country to be successful and has failed to really compete at the highest level since our title year. I do not consider shitting the bed the minute you get to Omaha as worthy of the resources he has at LSU. I'm not saying Onaha every year but does anybody think we have played to our potential when loaded? I do think that my personal feelings regarding PM skews my judgement, I think he comes across as an arrogant prick or maybe it's just me.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:58 am to Lester Earl
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Zardon isnt even playing JUCO, he's at a Div 2 school. He's hitting for power but playing against guys that will be play beer league softball next year
Zardon very clearly did not want to play college baseball any longer than he had to. When he wasn't guaranteed a starting spot on this year's team, that's all he needed to know to jump ship to wherever he could be drafted the soonest while getting guaranteed playing time.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:59 am to tigerfan182
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Vandy has lost their last two SEC series and no Vandy fans are calling for Corbin's head. Either they don't care or we have some idiots for fans.
Until Corbin won the CWS, Vandy had one national title in any sport in school history - women's bowling! Corbin is Vandy's God.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 11:59 am to RB10
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You're seriously going to try and tell me that Zardon wouldn't be a better option than Reid
He may be. I dont think you can say with certainty either. It would be nice to have the option of trying him out. Again, I never said losing him wasn't at all a bad thing. I just don't think it's some disaster like you are making it out to be. Zardon wasn't exactly a great hitter or strong in the field.
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or that Byrd wouldn't be a better 2nd bat off the bench than Wofford or Breaux?
This is also highly debatable. Again, it would be nice to have the option, but he still hasn't even played an inning at Clemson. And he didn't want to be here, so that's that.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:00 pm to Lester Earl
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Zardon isnt even playing JUCO, he's at a Div 2 school. He's hitting for power but playing against guys that will be play beer league softball next year
Well there ya go.
Do you have a link to his stats? Can't find anything.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:00 pm to lsufball19
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what did Byrd do last year that makes you think he'd have been any better than Wofford
A year of experience can do wonders. Is this some sort of mystery now?
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:01 pm to lsu2006
i just closed it, but he has
11HR 29 RBI .329 average
SLg over .600 and OBP in the 420 range
11HR 29 RBI .329 average
SLg over .600 and OBP in the 420 range
Posted on 4/27/16 at 12:02 pm to lsufball19
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his fielding was a huge liability last year. Mainieri places a pretty large emphasis on defense, always has. So no, I don't this he definitely would have been starting at 3rd this year
Fielding %:
Chris Reid in 2016 - .911
Danny Zardon in 2015 - .940
Reid has made 4 errors in a limited number of attempts so let's not act like he is head and shoulders above Zardon here please.
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