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re: Game Thoughts - Positive and Negative
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:46 am to LSUTigKyl
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:46 am to LSUTigKyl
QB - Looked great, managed the game and made throws downfield. 3 incompletions were a drop and two smart throw aways. Reminded me of Flynn. In complete control of the OFF.
RB - Guice was Guice and Williams looked like the stud-recruit we thought he was when he came with LF. Guy has reshaped his body and will be an asset this season.
WR - solid night, good routes, got open and NO drops.
OL - above avg most of the night. Charles whiffed on goal line 4th down...but I'll cut the FR some slack
Play-calling; while I realize you don't show everything in game 1 vs BYU, we need to throw more on 1st down. Keep the DEF guessing and off balance. Fake jet sweep to quick throw to TE was nice! CLEM used it effectively vs Bama in NC game. Not sure all the motion sweeps, especially to RB's, will work vs better SEC competition/speed, but overall it was a great start to a new OFF style of FB. Red zone play-calling needs a little work.
DL: Got upfield and ate space, allowing LB's to make tackles. Like when I saw the (3) SOPH's (Lawrence, Alexander, Logan) across the front line at one point. Depth and talent is a plus this season.
LB: Made tackles, ran to the ball and made tackles. Nice to see FR getting reps. Nice pressure on stunts, but we need more pressure from Key's spot until he returns....which I hope if for Miss St game.
DB; Other than D Jackson, who got beat twice, they covered and tackled very well. Jackson needs to cut back on the SWAG and pick up his coverage skills. Young guys across the entire DEF played well and the future is bright!
ST: KO were short and coverage was AVG other than the one time I saw Monroe drop the returner at the 15. Can't miss those short FG's.
Good FB last night which is obviously a plus for the team/staff and for recruiting. Build on it and come out next week even better!
RB - Guice was Guice and Williams looked like the stud-recruit we thought he was when he came with LF. Guy has reshaped his body and will be an asset this season.
WR - solid night, good routes, got open and NO drops.
OL - above avg most of the night. Charles whiffed on goal line 4th down...but I'll cut the FR some slack
Play-calling; while I realize you don't show everything in game 1 vs BYU, we need to throw more on 1st down. Keep the DEF guessing and off balance. Fake jet sweep to quick throw to TE was nice! CLEM used it effectively vs Bama in NC game. Not sure all the motion sweeps, especially to RB's, will work vs better SEC competition/speed, but overall it was a great start to a new OFF style of FB. Red zone play-calling needs a little work.
DL: Got upfield and ate space, allowing LB's to make tackles. Like when I saw the (3) SOPH's (Lawrence, Alexander, Logan) across the front line at one point. Depth and talent is a plus this season.
LB: Made tackles, ran to the ball and made tackles. Nice to see FR getting reps. Nice pressure on stunts, but we need more pressure from Key's spot until he returns....which I hope if for Miss St game.
DB; Other than D Jackson, who got beat twice, they covered and tackled very well. Jackson needs to cut back on the SWAG and pick up his coverage skills. Young guys across the entire DEF played well and the future is bright!
ST: KO were short and coverage was AVG other than the one time I saw Monroe drop the returner at the 15. Can't miss those short FG's.
Good FB last night which is obviously a plus for the team/staff and for recruiting. Build on it and come out next week even better!
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Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:46 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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This is said every year
True, but we were also incredibly efficient, which isn't usually the case.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 11:50 am to LSUTigKyl
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I felt like every floated out route to sidelines is a pick 6 against Bama. Has to come out quicker or more zip
It's a valid concern. But the play calling knowing that the DBs couldn't get there was nice to see. I expect to see more quick slants and outs not thrown to the far side of the field once the defenses get tougher.
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2. So much praise for defense but man that BYU gameplan and QB was so bad. Reminded me of us on 01/09.
You mean when the defense we were playing was so good and dominating that we literally couldn't do anything no matter what we tried? I'll take it
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Maybe I'm a minority but I might like Toliver/Greedy as starters.
Nah I'm with you there. Donte is fast, not a natural cover man imo. He'll continue to "start" but I see his snaps be split very quickly.
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My biggest concern is I think the WR talent is the worst it's been here in a decade
Nah the talent is loaded, just don't have any experience. They will be beasts by the time November rolls around imo.
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All in all a great debut and exceeded expectations but I do think that BYU team is very bad.
Agreed on both counts.
Hopefully we continue to improve, just as the competition will. But very good week 1
This post was edited on 9/3/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:04 pm to LSUTigKyl
Lol at your negatives through one game. People like you make this site unbearable at times. We held them under 100 yards total and you're blaming Donte Jackson because he allowed 2 passes to be caught for a total on 16 yards...
And every pass and every run and every formation won't work against Bama. We play 10 other teams outside of Bama, FYI
And every pass and every run and every formation won't work against Bama. We play 10 other teams outside of Bama, FYI
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:06 pm to LSUTigKyl
A decent showing for sure. Work on the penalties and quit looking like the LSU of the Miles era with that crap.
The OL will need to get things rolling as the season progresses as they will need to be stronger for Bama. It's not Bama's offense that worries me with Aranda in charge - it's our offense and Bama's defense. That is the benchmark.
And loved some freshmen getting plays.
The OL will need to get things rolling as the season progresses as they will need to be stronger for Bama. It's not Bama's offense that worries me with Aranda in charge - it's our offense and Bama's defense. That is the benchmark.
And loved some freshmen getting plays.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:30 pm to LSUButt
Bro this Donte Jackson thing has been a problem from the time he got here. It is concerning to me that I didn't see that change yet. What's unbearable around here is not being able to offer any criticism because we won and dominated. We played a far inferior opponent. Made them look silly. Felt great because Les coached team struggled to put anyone away at times.
That being said, we have possible deficiencies. These are just things I'm watching. Calm down.
That being said, we have possible deficiencies. These are just things I'm watching. Calm down.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 12:58 pm to dukke v
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Ok so LSU didn't make BYU look as bad as they did??????
Jesus jumped up and down dukke! Your reading comprehension skills suck arse. I've got a 4 year old grandson that comprehends things better than you.
I said that "I was surprised how bad BYU looked last night. Although that could be contributed to how much better LSU is to them. They usually have a fairly decent team". frick, trying to talk with you is like pulling teeth.
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but since you love Miles so much
I was a fan of Les Miles while he was the head coach, but I never once mentioned his name in my post. You are the only one that has mentioned Miles so far. He's been gone damn near a full year. Let the man go dukke.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:16 pm to LSUTigKyl
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My biggest concern is I think the WR talent is the worst it's been here in a decade. Mix of Dupree leaving and inexperience. One of the guys has to become a star. I have my doubts.
I knew everyone would notice this after week one
Posted on 9/3/17 at 1:57 pm to LSUTigKyl
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5. My biggest concern is I think the WR talent is the worst it's been here in a decade. Mix of Dupree leaving and inexperience. One of the guys has to become a star. I have my doubts.
Bad WR talent based on what? The number of drops last night? The passing yardage? If you're comparing this years WR's to OBJ and JL...maybe so...but...How many current teams have better WR's than those two? If you're comparing them to Dural/Dupre, I don't even need to state the obvious. Our WR's have to catch the ball and last night...they did.
Dee Anderson & Drake Davis have several years to prove you wrong and I'd put my money on Davis. Stephen Sullivan has FREAK size for a WR but we haven't used him correctly. How many BYU DB's would out-jump Sullivan in the red-zone? How many times did we give SS that opportunity? Jacoby Stevens could easily prove you wrong and it may be this year. Dillon was a stud HS WR and Canada obviously trusts his hands. He may lead the team in receptions & yards this year. Chark & Gage gave our future opponents something to think about. Both can catch the ball and both were used in the run game.
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I thought Darrell Williams looked better than Guice. He hit the holes and he is much quicker than last year. Different player.
I agree with you on Williams. He looked great last night. Fast into the hole and lots of power. Reminds me of Guice (last year) when he was competing with LF7. BYU looked to be selling out on Guice and Canada will adjust. Guice made 122/yds look as boring as I've ever seen from him. Thing is, he was a few plays from another 200+ game and probably would have eclipsed that number had he been running late in the game. I'm glad he wasn't. Remember last year when people were saying that Guice was better than LF? Nice problem to have.
BYU's game-plan was to control the line of scrimmage. Run the ball and stop the run. That didn't happen. Canada didn't have to show very much because the game was never in doubt.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:01 pm to LSUTigKyl
Game Thoughts - Positive and Negative - Definitely more positive being that we lucked up in missing out on Herman.
"Words can't do justice to how much I despise the offense we are running". Discussion in 'Longhorn Sports' started by swVAHorn, Yesterday at 3:23 PM.
"Words can't do justice to how much I despise the offense we are running". Discussion in 'Longhorn Sports' started by swVAHorn, Yesterday at 3:23 PM.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:16 pm to MadtownTiger
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2. Kickoffs. We got a touchback so + there, but 3 or 4 kickoffs landed well short of the goal line. Think one landed at the 8, that's just a ridiculous disparity.
I was bothered by the one that landed at the 8 too at first, but I don't think they made it out to the 25.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:18 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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That offense was so vanilla and the coaching wanted it that way. They showed absolutely nothing for when they play the important games.
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This is said every year
Miles isn't here anymore. This is the first years we get to say that after game one.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:22 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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This is said every year
And this year there is actual proof of what Canada does on offense that goes far and beyond what we saw last night. Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:40 pm to SL Tiger
I don't think the LSU WR talent is "bad." I think we have been fortunate for a long time with great WR and it's unfortunate we didn't utilize what we had even more.
Everything you said about the young guys on the team is a hope. I'm saying that right now we are below average at that position. We don't have a true number 1 and we are relying on guys who have never played behind that. I hope they come up strong but I think it will be a weakness this season. If it's not, we will be very tough to beat.
Everything you said about the young guys on the team is a hope. I'm saying that right now we are below average at that position. We don't have a true number 1 and we are relying on guys who have never played behind that. I hope they come up strong but I think it will be a weakness this season. If it's not, we will be very tough to beat.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:43 pm to lsuson
So it's not worthwhile to practice these "secret" plays in a real game? Cool.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:47 pm to drexyl
WE STILL can't find a freaking kicker who can get the damn ball into the end zone. Infuriating.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 2:58 pm to LSUTigKyl
Donte Jackson is a weakness on this defense.
I think Gage and Dillon can catch up with Chark which means we'd have 3 serviceable but not elite WR starters. Dillon has more upside, though. Want to see Jacoby and this other studs.
Overall, a good start, though.
I think Gage and Dillon can catch up with Chark which means we'd have 3 serviceable but not elite WR starters. Dillon has more upside, though. Want to see Jacoby and this other studs.
Overall, a good start, though.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:09 pm to LSUTigKyl
Positive, the Tigers
Negative, the Fans
Negative, the Fans
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:10 pm to clamdip
Best part of this thread is the people downplaying Chark as an elite college WR. He was the best we had last year and still here. Very good route runner and hands.
I think most people's statements on Chark and the WR's is because we didn't air it out last night. Dillon and Gage both have shown strong hands with some of the catches they've made. Give this group time coupled with the big boys getting better and we will be fine.
I think most people's statements on Chark and the WR's is because we didn't air it out last night. Dillon and Gage both have shown strong hands with some of the catches they've made. Give this group time coupled with the big boys getting better and we will be fine.
Posted on 9/3/17 at 4:18 pm to LSUTigKyl
Taylor might be ahead of Phillips, but likely they taught Devin's position to Phillips and Donnie's position to Taylor. So they would not have a choice.
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