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Former Tiger Nick Rumbelow to have Tommy John surgery
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:07 pm
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Posted on 4/11/16 at 7:37 pm to LSU Delts
Dang. He's been doing well too
Posted on 4/11/16 at 10:14 pm to LSU Delts
This sucks. Yankee fan and was hoping too see him do big things this year.
Posted on 4/11/16 at 11:14 pm to LSU Delts
Sad to see this happen as I am friends with both is younger and older brother. He is a nice guy and has been doing well in the minors. He will come back.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:27 am to LSU Delts
Perhaps Nick Goody will get the call up when they need more pitching in the bullpen (Rumbelow started the season in the minors).
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:11 am to therick711
Jake Lindgren 
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Rockachaw baby
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:17 am to LSU Delts
Good to get this out of the way this early in his career. Tons of pitchers come back even stronger now from this surgery. You also tend to learn new pitches and get funky movements.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:17 am to ULSU
Why would you get funky movement?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:13 am to ell_13
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Why would you get funky movement?
I don't know exactly, but I'd guess there could be a couple reasons. You may now have stronger tendons after surgery that allow your arm to flex or rotate more or differently. Maybe you throw with a different motion after the re-build.
All I know is, I've played with about a dozen people that had the surgery, and they said they have movement afterwards that they didn't have before.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 11:14 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:15 am to ell_13
Strength from the rehab tends to make different, new arm slots a possibility.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:18 am to ULSU
It's mental. The surgery consists of taking a tendon and drilling holes through two bones using that tendon to tie them together in a figure eight pattern where the UCL used to be. The physiology of it is actually amazing. The tendon literally becomes a ligament. Beyond that, any changes take place because of rehab. Nothing to do with the surgery itself. If every healthy pitcher went through the same process, they'd see "improvements" too.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:22 am to Honest Tune
I'd call it a possibility not a tendency.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:22 am to ell_13
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It's mental. The surgery consists of taking a tendon and drilling holes through two bones using that tendon to tie them together in a figure eight pattern where the UCL used to be. The physiology of it is actually amazing. The tendon literally becomes a ligament. Beyond that, any changes take place because of rehab. Nothing to do with the surgery itself. If every healthy pitcher went through the same process, they'd see "improvements" too.
That's all fine. I wasn't supposing the "why", just stating what I have seen and heard as a result.
Seems like you agree, but want me to argue about how that result happens. I don't care. People get funky movement on the ball after they heal and rehab from TJ surgery. Period. End of statement for me.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:32 am to ULSU
I'm not asking you to argue. I just had no idea what you meant. "Funky movement" doesn't mean anything. More movement? Maybe. It's not that common. But it happens due possible to more velocity for the same angle or change in slot. But the change in slot is typically more over the top often meaning LESS movement but with more speed.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:05 pm to ell_13
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But the change in slot is typically more over the top often meaning LESS movement but with more speed.
I hear it mostly affects the slider and cutter, whatever it is.
I know you've been around baseball and are knowledgeable, so excuse me if I don't have a little suspicion that you knew what I was talking about, and just wanted to make your point that you know more about TJ surgery than me. You win.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:29 pm to ULSU
I wanted to know what you meant. It was a simple question to get understanding because I'd never heard that before.
The mental side of TJ and the changes that take place after are often ignored or exaggerated. Many more pitchers don't see an increase in MPH than those who do. Many often have less success. But those are the ones you don't hear about. They're usually the younger (college/low minors). There's an article out there that followed many of these younger players showing that they performed worse the first year back from TJ. They had guesses as to why. Control issues, tendency to throw less off speed, etc. and it also showed that there was only about a half mph increase on average. I'll look for it.
They do get better in year 2 though. Which is why there has been a move to hold guys back a little even though the rehab/recovery is complete in 10-12 months.
The mental side of TJ and the changes that take place after are often ignored or exaggerated. Many more pitchers don't see an increase in MPH than those who do. Many often have less success. But those are the ones you don't hear about. They're usually the younger (college/low minors). There's an article out there that followed many of these younger players showing that they performed worse the first year back from TJ. They had guesses as to why. Control issues, tendency to throw less off speed, etc. and it also showed that there was only about a half mph increase on average. I'll look for it.
They do get better in year 2 though. Which is why there has been a move to hold guys back a little even though the rehab/recovery is complete in 10-12 months.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:42 pm to ell_13
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They're usually the younger (college/low minors). There's an article out there that followed many of these younger players showing that they performed worse the first year back from TJ. They had guesses as to why. Control issues, tendency to throw less off speed, etc. and it also showed that there was only about a half mph increase on average. I'll look for it.
They do get better in year 2 though. Which is why there has been a move to hold guys back a little even though the rehab/recovery is complete in 10-12 months.
Oh yeah, there is soooo much rehab needed. Year 1 should be a total throw away, but younger guys trying to prove themselves, and doctors that don't have a team telling them to protect the investment let a lot of kids come back too soon.
The ones who get through it and do have proper rehab, tend to see a much better experience with both their stuff, and the pain they used to just accept as part of the deal. It forces a lot of kids who were making it on arm talent alone to really focus on their mechanics and strengthen up. TJ really has come a long long way from where it was 15-20 years ago.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:48 pm to ULSU
Sorry if I came across as combative originally. Not my intent. 
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:02 pm to ell_13
All good, we both root for the good guys.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:23 pm to ULSU
Just tweeted by a Yankees Blog:
Best of luck to the young man. Whether it's funky movement or an increase in general strength
I hope he is able to come back from the injury and play for the Yankees. Still had one of the filthiest CBs to come through LSU.
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Nick Rumbelow's surgery is Friday in New York with Dr. Ahmad.
Best of luck to the young man. Whether it's funky movement or an increase in general strength
I hope he is able to come back from the injury and play for the Yankees. Still had one of the filthiest CBs to come through LSU.
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