re: Former LSU FB Jacob Hester among 70 at Saints tryout

considering the Saints need help on special teams... Hester could find himself a niche on special teams

Payton even said as such during his presser

JH could also find a role on the field on passing downs since I believe Lorig is more of a blocking FB

but making this Saints team as a 2nd FB will be very, very tough

I loved Hester in P&G and would love to see him in B&G as well

Damn son, now thats a well thought out post.

JJ should stick with Arena fb and start contemplating life after football. He was not qb material deserving of an elite college program and he certainly is not qb material for an NFL team.

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Could you imagine an 'Any Given Sunday' situation with JJ??

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My name is Willie..... WILLIE BEAMEN!!!!

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should be a well-thought-out post. The guy is Jeffersons agent.

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Did I say Jefferson should have been drafted? No. There was better QB talent at the 2012 Combine that wasn't drafted.

Did I say he had NFL talent? No. In fact, I said just the opposite. He is not an NFL QB.

Jefferson did not develop at LSU because he did not have a QB coach until his final year of college. He had bad mechanics, and he made a lot of mistakes on and off the field.

However, at the 2012 NFL Combine, Jefferson shined. He had all the reason in the world to be proud of that performance and to give a finger to someone who was trying to shut down his career before he even had a chance to start it.



Rouge - Do you always have to be so miserable? Sure, you've got a crappy life, but instead of shitting all over everyone and everything, why don't you try being positive for once. It might make your life seem less shitty.

Did Hester make the cut ? I know JJ didn't

Jefferson

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However, one would have to say that Jefferson came in second at the Combine.

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I disagree. You're not accounting for passing drills, interviews, and mental testing. Taking everything into consideration, no way Jefferson is 2nd in that group of QBs.

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There were six drills. Only one QB was in the top five in all six drills: Jordan Jefferson. Jefferson had the best Shuttle time and finished third in the 40 and the Vertical.

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Physically, he did test well, but physical testing is much less important for quarterbacks than it is for other positions.

If you want to give him 2nd for physical testing only, okay. But we have to also take into consideration that he was the only QB that participated in every physical test. Some guys (e.g., Ryan Tannehill, who would've tested well) didn't participate in any of the physical testing.

My takeaway from seeing how JJ performed at the Combine was that he could've possibly been a good TE. Maybe a Deangelo Peterson-type. In comparison, JJ was taller, and had longer arms and bigger hands. The big ? would be Jefferson's catching ability, but QBs typically have good hands. He had the frame to carry extra weight. As a QB, he didn't shy away from contact. In fact, he would readily deliver a blow, and would run through a defender on occasion.

His size would present matchup problems for DBs, and a lot of LBs wouldn't be able to keep up with his speed and quickness. He had the 36" Vertical at 6'4", so he could've been a weapon in the red zone.

As a QB, he was a tough, physical runner from the jump, but he struggled to use his running ability in certain aspects as a QB. JJ is LSU's all-time leader in rushing yards from the QB position, but compare his rushing statistics to Johnny Manziel:

Jefferson - 1018 yards, 2.8 YPC, 12 TDs in 42 games (32 starts)

Manziel - 2169 yards, 6.3 YPC, 30 TDs in 26 games

And Jefferson recorded a faster time in the 40-yard dash than Manziel did:

Jefferson - 4.65 (2012 Combine)

Manziel - 4.68 (2014 Combine)

Jefferson's biggest weakness in terms of his running ability was that he wasn't good at keeping his eyes downfield while scrambling to extend the pass play. Some guys just have a knack for doing that, and can move around while maintaining their composure and keeping their eyes downfield, and some don't.

As a runner, Jefferson was at his best on a designed play where he could just put his head down and geaux. When he had the option to pitch/pass, he slowed down tremendously, often times to the point of being hesitant. The hesitancy really showed up on option plays. He just never developed a consistent feel for how to run that play.

JJ also wasn't real fluid, and that hindered his ability to throw on the run. You could see that even when he broke long runs. While he had good speed and quickness for a QB, you could see that rigidity when he hit full stride. Rigidness is not conducive to the type of body movements a QB has to make on improvisational-scramble-type plays, which generally require a good amount of contortive movement/lateral movement/side to side running, along with things like spontaneity/instinctive feel, etc. Guys that lack fluidity typically have a tough time with those throws.

He still had a good enough skill set to be an effective college QB, but the TE position might have enabled him to use his physical attributes more fully.

Anyway, that's my take.

This is poise, leadership and command all wrappped up into one "special" player:

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My name is Willie..... WILLIE BEAMEN!!!!

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I think I'm going to have to watch that movie again soon.