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re: For those saying let Harris start and take his lumps
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:17 pm to RedTigerRulz
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:17 pm to RedTigerRulz
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AJ should have started at Auburn...period. Judging what BH might be able to do off that one game is ludicrous. He should have gotten a start....at home...against one of the patsies. That way he could have floundered a bit and not really hurt our chances to win in the end.
Not letting him play at all now is total BS and is wholly on Miles.
Sometimes I'm right with you, and then sometimes I think you're insane.
Against Mississippi St. and NMSU, Jennings was the one who floundered after getting the start. He also showed he was a turnover risk (which had been the disqualification for Harris). Against MSU, he did "really hurt our chances to win in the end." It did make sense to give Harris the start. I thought he should have started against NMSU, but before the Auburn game, we couldn't go back in time.
The difference was when Harris was in those earlier games, we weren't shy about calling some creative plays that were more based around running and moving around rather than choosing between I formation and pocket passing. I think having a Jennings game plan with Harris was more of a factor in making him uncomfortable than it being at Auburn.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 2:21 pm
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:18 pm to dguidry
Haven't we won 6 games already? No chance in hell to win? That is what you said, right?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:19 pm to Methuselah
Does the backup QB get all the women on campus, too? He sure as hell gets the fans attention. Had Harris not looked like the moment was too big, he would be the guy. LSU only has 2 losses. Les is not about to dump the season at this point. Jennings is the safe bet at this point.
Shouldn't we worry more about win and losses than who the starting QB is?
Shouldn't we worry more about win and losses than who the starting QB is?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:19 pm to Fratigerguy
Harris should be playing at minimum half the snaps, he is the QB of the future, nothing else matters...period, end of story, GTFO
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:19 pm to LACountyTiger
It is a catch 22 deal. The staff is trying to win the next game. They will go with the one they think gives the best chance to do that for this game. They could be wrong, they could be right.
When a new staff comes into a crappy situation, they have the luxury sometimes of" taking lumps" and gaining experience for the more"talented" guy because expectations are lower.
LSU is much closer to being 4-4 than 8-0 at this point. If the staff gets them to 8-4 or 9-3, it maybe their best coaching year. Yes you could argue they created this situation.
When a new staff comes into a crappy situation, they have the luxury sometimes of" taking lumps" and gaining experience for the more"talented" guy because expectations are lower.
LSU is much closer to being 4-4 than 8-0 at this point. If the staff gets them to 8-4 or 9-3, it maybe their best coaching year. Yes you could argue they created this situation.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:26 pm to TigerMac81
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Or it's bye bye Brandon.
I wonder what Tiger Nation would think of that...hmmmm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:28 pm to LACountyTiger
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Oh, QB is a HUGE factor for LSU, albeit a negative one.
I am trying not to have terrible posts and to be positive along with everyone else on this board.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:31 pm to NotRight37
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If the staff gets them to 8-4 or 9-3, it maybe their best coaching year. Yes you could argue they created this situation.
If we finish 9-3, I would be thrilled with what it would say about the coaching staff and the future. I was very disappointed that we lost three games last season, but we didn't have nearly the same apparent advantages this season.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:34 pm to demtigers73
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"safer" of the two.
I agree Jennings should start, but I don't favor him by much. Sometimes Les needs to be a grumpy jerk like Spurrier and pull an ineffective QB. I think he's too deferential sometimes.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:52 pm to TigerFan55555
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Harris should be playing at minimum half the snaps, he is the QB of the future, nothing else matters...period, end of story, GTFO
Well ain't you a bad sumbitch
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:54 pm to Buda
BH doesn't seem to do well when he has time to THINK about playing the game!!!
When he's thrown into the mix, he's better than average and I would put him up against anyone.....but to be great, you must be able to do it knowing you're "The guy".......
BH can't play second fiddle......i mean, hell it's easy to play the backup role.........the backup never carries the "burden", which allows BH to play more free.......the one time he wasn't in the backup role, he struggled......
When he's thrown into the mix, he's better than average and I would put him up against anyone.....but to be great, you must be able to do it knowing you're "The guy".......
BH can't play second fiddle......i mean, hell it's easy to play the backup role.........the backup never carries the "burden", which allows BH to play more free.......the one time he wasn't in the backup role, he struggled......
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:59 pm to Buda
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Based on what I've seen, I think AJ still represents the best option at QB. But....
If he struggles, I would not hesitate to make the switch and see what BH can do. Both are still open books as far as how good they can be.
This is where I disagree. BH has looked far better against State and NMST that Jennings has looked at his best this year. Harris has only looked bad in 1 game Auburn on road and Jennings has looked bad in 3qtrs Wisconsin, Pityful against NMST. 3 qtrs against Florida and not fantastic against Kent. IMO, Both give us equal chance to win now and 1 gives us a better chance in future.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:00 pm to MoreOrLes
The fact is, he's had trouble executing hand-offs to the correct side of the formation. And that might as well be a death-sentence on this team.
Also...
I'd blame him. What kind of self-righteous kid thinks he deserves to play, much less start, as a true freshman (QB)? How many other programs could he have gone to and started, or even played, as a true freshman? He's lucky to have taken any meaningful snaps not resulting from injury.
If he continues to grow, he certainly has a chance to start next year - and that's worth staying for.
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and if that correct and Harris doesn't see the field much the rest of the year.....he may transfer. Who could blame him
I'd blame him. What kind of self-righteous kid thinks he deserves to play, much less start, as a true freshman (QB)? How many other programs could he have gone to and started, or even played, as a true freshman? He's lucky to have taken any meaningful snaps not resulting from injury.
If he continues to grow, he certainly has a chance to start next year - and that's worth staying for.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:02 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:I agree with this statement. Both quarterbacks have looked good at times, and bad at times. If Jennings gives us the best chance at victory, then I'm all for him starting. But I think Harris should be given a couple series each half or maybe a full quarter each game to gain some valuable game time experience.Let the amount of game time be dictated by how the game is being played out. I do support the coaching staff's decisions on who gets how much playing time each game, but this does seem like it would benefit both Harris and the team in the long run.
I think at minimum they should give him a small package to get some real game experience leading into next season.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:26 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
Agreed, give him an "RP Package" and let him run it. Especially when we are ahead or playing a cupcake. I don't see what's so complicated about this. We act like this is the first time a team has ever had 2 QBs on the roster that need to get playing time.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:27 pm to MoreOrLes
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and if that correct and Harris doesn't see the field much the rest of the year.....he may transfer. Who could blame him
What do you base that conjecture on? I think you do Harris a disservice. I don't think that he is the kind of kid to quit the team just because he is not a full time starter as a freshman.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:31 pm to earl keese
Harris wet the on the road in a hostile environment. I don't think that would have happened against Kentucky at home. There is no reason he couldn't have played more once the game was in hand.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:34 pm to Fratigerguy
I think Miles is trying to see how many wins he can milk with his current lineup. I also think he knows who the better player is. You also have to realize how much better Harris was compared to Jennings in the Miss. State and New Mex State games. The future is Harris. If we lose the next two let him start against the Hogs and Aggies.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:36 pm to The Mick
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I think he can do exactly what Jennings has done, EASILY.
because you don't understand what Jennings does...
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:46 pm to theknightswhosay
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Against Mississippi St
Jennings wasn't the reason we lost that game and if Dural and Dickson would have gotten those two fairly easy receptions, the game could have been differently for our offense. No surprise his confidence was shot for New Mexico St, everyone wanted him benched after MSU, even though that was a team loss.
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