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For once since Saban, let’s not screw up hiring

Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:56 am
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31158 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:56 am
Miles was a bad hire and out of the blue. We saw the shite show when O was hired. Most coordinators too. Prospective employees can sense dysfunction in an organization.

Let’s hope the administration handles this one with professionalism and discretion. They need to move faster than they usually do.
Posted by LSUnowhas2
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
21981 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:57 am to
Keep in perspective that even our last two dumpster fire coaches both managed to win nattys.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31158 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:58 am to
Yes, so imagine the possibilities when it’s a good hire.
Posted by chilge2
Member since Nov 2019
231 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:58 am to
Completely disagree. It's October. We need to take our time, vet our candidates, and make a well-informed decision. Making a big name, splashy hire on impulse will be devastating to the future of the program.
Posted by Tiger2tiger97
Member since Jul 2021
664 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:59 am to
LSU isn’t hiring. All positions are filled.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31158 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:59 am to
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It's October. We need to take our time, vet our candidates, and make a well-informed decision


By moving fast I don’t mean hire right away. Process needs to start now regardless of O or interim.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
12810 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Miles was a bad hire


Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Miles was a bad hire and out of the blue


he was neither, he was talked about for the Bama job when Franchione left and they hired Price.

At LSU had 2 separate 3 season runs at LSU of 34-6 (the 2nd of which was with his players) that included 1 NC, another NC appearance, 2 SEC Titles and 3 SEC W titles. He also coached in the same division as the GOAT coach AND his permanent SEC East opponent had the 2nd best coach of this century for his first 6 or so seasons. Yes, get was stubborn and fell behind and it was definitely time to move on but to act like his whole time here was a disaster is just dishonest.

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We saw the shite show when O was hired


i was 100% against the O hire but he did deliver the greatest season in the history of the program and arguably the sport. I don;t think Fisher (who i wanted) or Herman would have done that
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25486 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Miles was a bad hire and out of the blue.


You are retarded. Miles was a good coach until he lost his mojo. His last several years were terrible because he acted a stubborn arse, but he was a good/great coach for several years.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
In and Out of Consciousness
Member since Sep 2009
4660 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:11 am to
Miles won many games based on sheer talent alone. Imagine what could have been had Miles and the assistants been able to really coach, make adjustments, and develop players that needed it
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
7324 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:12 am to
You don’t think Woodward hasn’t been vetting coach’s agents to gauge interests since last year ?
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
1683 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Miles was a bad hire and out of the blue.


Yeah, imagine hiring a guy that won over 70 percent of the games and a national title. What a flop
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31158 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:16 am to
For the talent levels Saban left him with, Miles underperformed vastly.

Jamarcus Russel, Dwayne Bowe, Early Doucet, Buster Davis and 3 points against Auburn? And what 10 against Florida?

Should I go on about the 07 season and the two inexplicable losses?

LSU settled with Miles. Won on talent.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:16 am to
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Miles won many games based on sheer talent alone. Imagine what could have been had Miles and the assistants been able to really coach, make adjustments, and develop players that needed it


this is sheer nonsense, you guys are believing in the coaching unicorn. Miles definitely had his flaws but the idea the he never coached or made adjustment is zero sum nonsense. As for his assistants, Chavis had a long record of success at Tennessee and Miles did hire Arranda, hell even Steele did great at Auburn
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:23 am to
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For the talent levels Saban left him with, Miles underperformed vastly.


he only lost 6 games in the first 3 years and finished #5, #3 and #1, what realistically do you expect? I guess this is where you whine on about 2005 Tennessee as if 1 bad loss is everything and as if other coaches (including Saban) have never had bad loses

quote:

Jamarcus Russel, Dwayne Bowe, Early Doucet, Buster Davis and 3 points against Auburn? And what 10 against Florida?


First of all 2006 was not like it is now but those 2 top 10 SEC teams with great defense on the road. Do you think Meyer is a good offensive coach? He mustered only 13 vs Alabama with Tim Tebow and Aaron Hernandez.

Miles offense was not the same pre 2008 like it was after.
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Should I go on about the 07 season and the two inexplicable losses?



we won the fricking national title

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LSU settled with Miles.


Then name the magic mystery coach we should have hired instead? Who was available in January 2005 that would have done so much better? The only coaches that you could credibly argue would have done better had just left for the Dolphins job and taken the Florida job a month earlier. You are letting MDS get the best of you, he was flawed yes, but he did a very good job here, denying that is having impossible standards
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71116 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:37 am to
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Keep in perspective that even our last two dumpster fire coaches both managed to win nattys.


Also, Miles was the best option at the time. Unless you would have preferred Petrino.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72674 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:48 am to
quote:

LSU settled with Miles. Won on talent.




yup. that is a no brainer. he shoulda had a couple more nattys. had natty material in 05, 06,07, 2011, 2012, 2016
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11911 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:50 am to
quote:

LSU isn’t hiring. All positions are filled.

Not for long.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72674 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:50 am to
had saban not fricked us on timing we coulda got spurrier.

CUM first year at UF was 2005 and spurrier at carolina was 2005.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22310 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:52 am to
I have theorized that Saban did not care for the over-bearing, opinionated, second-guessing fan base at LSU. Saban made it clear from the start to the Alabama fan base that he is 100% in charge, ergo a plethora of National Championships and a winning tradition.
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