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EarthwormJim
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Member since Dec 2005
9846 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?

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Kragthorpe, I feel bad for because of the health problems that he and his family have been through the last few years. But honestly that notwithstanding, he just is not a very good coach. He absolutely shite the bed then set it on fire at Louisville. Its no coincidence that Petrino won over 40 games in 4 years and took them to the BCS before Kragthorpe and Strong brought them back to double digit win seasons and the BCS after Kragthorpe. I don't really see our QBs progressing. Krag has never been a good recruiter and never will be.



He's not a head coach. He was a good coordinator and is a well respected QB coach. And he's responsible for both of the highly regarded QBs currently committed.

His head coaching failure has nothing to do with his ability to coach a QB. A first year starter progressed and improved during the year this year and Lee had his best year as a QB under him.


Curt
LSU Fan
Bogalusa, La.
Member since Feb 2009
268 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
Ensminger,Stud coach TE. I can recruit better than Ensminger.


tigerbru17
Boston College Fan
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
7667 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
Kragthorpe absolutely needs to stay.


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DrD
LSU Fan
Houston
Member since Jan 2010
1229 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
Firing Ensminger accomplishes nothing and is going in the opposite direction. Ensminger is a former LSU tiger w strong recruiting ties. Maybe give him the offensive coordinator job like he had at A&M and get rid of the others that have no creativity at all. Ensminger for offensive coordinator. GEAUX TIGERS!


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Papa Tigah
LSU Fan
TIGER ISLAND, LA
Member since Sep 2007
11949 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
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Nope, Ensminger.

+1


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GABlueDog
LSU Fan
Marietta, GA
Member since Dec 2008
8045 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
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He was a good coordinator

meh
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is a well respected QB coach

meh
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he's responsible for both of the highly regarded QBs currently committed.

No he is not. Les himself has been the lead guy for both Rettig and Jennings.


The Eric
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
14316 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
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Due to health reasons, he can't do the job he was hired to do. So, yeah.


I feel bad that Kragthorpe was diagnosed with Parkinson's but its not a death certificate. With treatment these days he could live 20-30 years without serious symptoms. I think he will come to realize this with time and either take over as OC or move on to a job with more responsibility


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tigerbru17
Boston College Fan
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
7667 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
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No he is not. Les himself has been the lead guy for both Rettig and Jennings.

False.


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DaSaltyTiger
LSU Fan
Alexandria/Pineville, LA area
Member since Dec 2004
4689 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
ensminger


deepdeltatiger
LSU Fan
Myrtle Grove
Member since Aug 2007
250 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
Norv Turner-OC, QB, Rec.
Crag-QB, Rec, TE
Wilson-RB
Stud-OL, TE


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heartbreakTiger
Georgia Fan
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
124158 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
id be ok with firing krags,stud and ensminger. bring in a qb coach/oc, new tight end coach and new oline coach


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Fat Bastard
LA-Lafayette Fan
Paradise
Member since Mar 2009
18949 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
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Funny thing is you NEVER see him with a play card on the sideline.


wow

you do not pay attention well at all.

He has carried one before.

FACT


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bmy
LSU Fan
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
26269 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
Send ensminger packing..

Why is he even on the LSU staff?
This post was edited on 1/3 at 9:02 pm


hondo
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2006
443 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
Guys,
As long as Les is here, LSU is where 5 star QBs come to die and great offensive coordinators get throttled.
Les controls the oc's ability to run a diversified play book
No change will occur before TCU game in coaching staff.
Book it


bmy
LSU Fan
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
26269 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
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Guys,
As long as Les is here, LSU is where 5 star QBs come to die and great offensive coordinators get throttled.
Les controls the oc's ability to run a diversified play book
No change will occur before TCU game in coaching staff.
Book it


What does any of that have to do with having a good QB?


offshoretrash
TCU Fan
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
6268 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
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who do you fire?



OC
QB Coach
WR/TE Coach
OL Coach


We are just not getting our moneys worth out of these coaches.


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TigerFanInSouthland
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
2501 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
Get rid of miles. It's his philosophy after all. Get a new coach that has a lick of football sense and then you'll start seeing movements on the offensive side of the ball.


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hondo
LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2006
443 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
What good QBs prospect would want to come here.?
Maybe he can learn to block


EarthwormJim
LSU Fan
Member since Dec 2005
9846 posts

re: For everyone who says we should hire an OC, who do you fire?
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What good QBs prospect would want to come here.? Maybe he can learn to block


Probably the 2 that are currently committed.

And what 5 star QBs have died here?


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