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Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:18 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:Yeah, but the media and legislation could look at us negatively! We don't want anyone talking bad about LSU, so lets just tank academics and athletics instead.
LSU wasn't paying for anything. Completely privately funded.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:19 am to Rex
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I think that many here value LSU for its football team and little else
It's pretty well-known that some of the TAF's top contributors didn't go to LSU. I don't think this is some revelation, and I doubt it's different for any of the other top athletic, public universities.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:20 am to recruitnik
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And the problem nationally is that it's an absolute joke that people would spend that much money on a football coach but can't be bothered pay professors of the university the team supposedly represents.
This is about business. LSU football brings more money, year in and year out, to LSU than any professor. LSU has experienced more positive growth since 2000 than at any point since the 1950s. Much of that is attributable to football being good.
Alabama is experiencing the same thing currently with its university. Applications are up, student quality is up, capital expenditures are up, infrastructure improvements, etc.
So, while what you are saying is true in some ways and is no doubt altruistic...it is not an apples to apples comparison.
LSU athletics over a 10 year period is close to a one billion dollar entity by itself. Football makes up most of that number.
I know developers in Baton Rouge and business men that are household names in Louisiana. To a man, they believe the economic prosperity of the state has a direct correlation to the success of the LSU athletics program.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:21 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:20 am to J Murdah
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If they can do that for football, who is in charge of fundraising for the university?
It is sad that this is the case. However,w hat do businesses get for donating to the university? Do they get to bring clients to see the English or Art department they are funding? Do they get to root for that Social Science Research Report discussing the plight of the transgendered african american aids patient?
You must be able to see the difference in fund raising. If you do not know the difference in fundraising then you probably are not watching the budget debates. So the point is moot.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:20 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Smart decision. People will blast him, but it's still real money people. Our academics are struggling to stay afloat yet we were fine with ponying up 20+mil to make a football coaching change? I mean people have to have some kind of perspective here.
Did that 15-25 million get diverted to academics once frick King vetoed the termination???
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:20 am to Lsuchs
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How about the athletic department not pay the university 6-10 mill this year at a time of football crisis?
Good job. You've really found a sensible solution and clearly taken the high road in this situation. I'm tired of that damn school leaching on my football program as well.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:21 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:
U mad
No more so than when I slap a toddler's hand before he touches something he shouldn't.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:21 am to PhiTiger1764
What a F. King dipshit.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:22 am to Alt26
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The 7-0 start was fool's gold and everyone not wearing purple and gold glasses knew it.
Yes it was fool's gold, but let's not pretend only LSU fans bought it.
They were ranked #2 in the country, ahead of a lot of undefeated teams at the time.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:22 am to LSUGoose
He can justify a lazy river, but not a football coaching change? Only one word comes to mind: Liar.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:22 am to DeltaDoc
quote:
Alabama is experiencing the same thing currently with its university. Applications are up, student quality is up, capital expenditures are up, infrastructure improvements, etc.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:22 am to Rex
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I suspect that a lot of the people in this thread are not LSU alumni.
I'm an LSU alum and understand the academic issues facing the school.
I still have a problem with the president admitting that he nixed the deal for political purposes.
if you're going to make a statement, just endorse Miles and say you feel he is a great man and coach. You don't come out and say, he's mainly being retained to save face before going before the legislature. Seriously, what moron in the PR office allowed this statement to go out?
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 11:24 am
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:23 am to Brettesaurus Rex
quote:But I'm sure it's perfectly reasonable for $30M pissed away on annoying election shite-talk TV ads..... and that's just this year's.
Our academics are struggling to stay afloat yet we were fine with ponying up 20+mil to make a football coaching change?
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:23 am to seawolf06
Alexander's comments confirm one thing.
that we will not fire Miles next year.
or the year after.
or the year after.
If money and perception were the issues at hand, then money and perception will continue to be the issues at hand, until that buyout is down to $0.00.
that we will not fire Miles next year.
or the year after.
or the year after.
If money and perception were the issues at hand, then money and perception will continue to be the issues at hand, until that buyout is down to $0.00.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:23 am to Spilled Milk
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how much money did LSU itself save as a result of not canning Miles? Answer: ZERO
How much money would LSU itself have spent to can Miles? Answer: ZERO
How much money does LSU stand to lose as a result of pissing off boosters? Answer: Millions
Yep. And I refuse to believe that people are too stupid to understand the money is coming from somewhere other than the state.
Now the media? The media would lambast us, just as they were doing before Miles even got fired, because they have to feed a narrative.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:24 am to Golfer
Golfer, spin of public perception is line 1 of F King's job description...he was simply making his job easier, rather than explain where the money really comes from and how it has or would have had ZERO impact on LSU academics coming or going
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:24 am to The Egg
quote:
If money and perception were the issues at hand, then money and perception will continue to be the issues at hand,
Nah. This was poor timing, IMO. If not for the special session they buyout goes through.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:24 am to LSUGoose
So this a-hole waited from Wednesday November 17 till Saturday November 28 to decide he wanted Miles back? If that is true, then one, the guy is a moron and two, he does not have a good relationship with Joe Alleva.
You would have to be from Mars if you didn't hear from someone on the article by Rabalais. I know he is the president of LSU, but come on, he didn't know about that article after it came out. It said Miles was coaching for his job. After he read that, he had to know then if he thought getting rid of Miles was a good idea or not in regarding the contract buyout of $15M. So if that is right, why did it take 12 days to make that decision? I call BS. F king didn't give a fuk and then when people started grumbling, he pussed out and overrode Alleva. If he was truly in Miles corner, he would have come out and said so after the article, not wait 12 days, have a secret meeting and then announce he is back.
Guy should be fired immediately.
You would have to be from Mars if you didn't hear from someone on the article by Rabalais. I know he is the president of LSU, but come on, he didn't know about that article after it came out. It said Miles was coaching for his job. After he read that, he had to know then if he thought getting rid of Miles was a good idea or not in regarding the contract buyout of $15M. So if that is right, why did it take 12 days to make that decision? I call BS. F king didn't give a fuk and then when people started grumbling, he pussed out and overrode Alleva. If he was truly in Miles corner, he would have come out and said so after the article, not wait 12 days, have a secret meeting and then announce he is back.
Guy should be fired immediately.
Posted on 12/3/15 at 11:24 am to The Egg
So we're stuck with Miles because this guy has no cojones.
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