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re: Expectations for Baseball

Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:24 pm to
Posted by paulb52
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:24 pm to
Hard to win title. Take one step at a time.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:29 pm to
CWS is the floor.
Posted by Ceasarfor3!
MS
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 4:53 pm to
Each year I expect a top 15 season. More specifically;
2-3 losses in OOC games
Undefeated in mid week games
Above .500 in SEC play
2 wins in the tourney
Host and win a regional





Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 5:14 pm to
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All indications so far point towards this team potentially making the run to Omaha. That alone in a coach's first year would be nuts.


They were two wins from Omaha last year. It’s not that crazy of an idea to think they have a chance to get there this year.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:26 pm to
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CWS is the floor


We found who will be the first person to melt as soon as we trail in a game this season.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Undefeated in mid week games


Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
5711 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 7:59 pm to
Undefeated



Maybe not, Omaha or bust.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:01 pm to
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Really hard to win a title in baseball. A lot of good fortune has to happen.
False. Baseball has one of the fairest post seasons in sports. You could lose 4 games and still win it all.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:01 pm to
And yet it still requires alot of good fortune
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:04 pm to
No more than any other sport. But absolutely less than most.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:05 pm to
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Baseball has one of the fairest post seasons in sports



It’s fair but it’s fair for EVERYBODY. In football it’s about what you spend. Baseball doesn’t care what you spend. You can be full of pro talent and still lose 2-3 to a mid major if you’re injured or slumping at the wrong time.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:09 pm to
Every round you get a mulligan. No sport has that. It’s what’s so great (and terrible) about March madness.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:11 pm to
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Every round you get a mulligan. No sport has that. It’s what’s so great (and terrible) about March madness.




It’s easier than March Madness I’ll give you that but it’s so so much harder than football.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:15 pm to
I get that football is about athletes (money) so your competition is really between 10 teams. Baseball is deeper for sure. A winner can come from about 30 teams. But I still think it’s fair and hardly about “luck”
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77597 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:16 pm to
And baseball is just streaking. Your bats may just go into a slump for two days and you are done. Plenty of examples
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:20 pm to
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But I still think it’s fair and hardly about “luck”



Every championship whether it’s a high school state championship or the super bowl or World Series is about “luck”. There’s a thousand different things outside of anyone’s control that can knock a worthy team out of contention.

Baseball with as many or more “worthy” teams as any sport requires that much more luck.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 2/11/22 at 8:47 pm to
A really good team beating another really good team isn’t about luck. You just beat them. The circumstances may seem like you got unlucky because hindsight 20/20 and playing “if” games in your head. But you play a team 3 times and you can lose. You’re given a chance to have that “bad luck” and bounce back. You typically find the better overall team.
Posted by CouldaShot79
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2021
524 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 2:53 am to
Luck isn’t the right word, but in baseball more than any other sport, the best team doesn’t always win. The main reason is parity across the sport at the college level. There are far more college ready players coming out of high school than there were even 10 or 15 years ago. The training at the youth level is in warp speed. Simply put, there are more high level players to go around than there are scholarships to hand out, so more schools are getting equivalent or near equivalent players. It’s good for the smaller schools and good for college baseball in general. The price is that the blue bloods won’t be as consistently dominant bc the margin for error is razor thin on any given weekend, especially in the post season. Another reason is that there are days where athletes just don’t have their best stuff and it’s more evident in baseball bc you can’t scheme around it like u can in other sports. Your all American pitcher still has to maneuver through a line up even if his fastball is flat or his breaking ball isn’t as sharp that day. Meanwhile the scrub in the other dugout slept at a Holliday inn express last night and is toting an extra 2-3 mph and a hammer piece breaking ball. It happens. Same with hitters. Guys can be dialed in one weekend and look like they’ve never swung a bat the next weekend. Winning it all still takes some good fortune in that aspect.

I think it’s silly to set the success bar by picking wins/losses or a certain amount of cws appearances or anything like that. If you know the game, just look at the quality of the product on the field. If they have a solid pitching staff, strong talent at every position on the field and are playing fundemental, unselfish ball, and are managed well the results will come as a by product of all that. We haven’t had that in a while at lsu. People need to let it play out instead of measuring success/failure by a handful of arbitrary statistics.
This post was edited on 2/12/22 at 3:04 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85134 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 4:37 am to
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If you know the game, just look at the quality of the product on the field. If they have a solid pitching staff, strong talent at every position on the field and are playing fundemental, unselfish ball, and are managed well the results will come as a by product of all that.
This one sentence contradicts your whole argument.
Posted by Nix to Twillie
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2015
17837 posts
Posted on 2/12/22 at 9:14 am to
Top 8 national seed should be the minimum, always.
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