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re: ESPN Article on Miles & Jefferson
Posted on 9/28/10 at 2:56 pm to MoreOrLes
Posted on 9/28/10 at 2:56 pm to MoreOrLes
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“He’s getting closer and closer to getting an opportunity,” Miles said of Lee.
What I want to know, & I'm sure the rest of the Tiger faithful also, is does that statement mean that JL is not "skillfully capable YET" but it getting closer OR does getting closer mean that Coach Miles is "almost" at the point where he doesn't have faith in JJ?
There is a HUGE difference in what that statement might mean & does mean. If JL isn't ready, than that is one thing but if Coach Miles, after seeing the last 3 games, doesn't think JJ is struggling, then that is a HUGE problemo. With JL's past & the fact that he never has really beaten JJ out at practice, then maybe Coach Miles is really putting the best option (no pun intended) out there????
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
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Posted on 9/28/10 at 2:57 pm to wilfont
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“It wasn’t a great night to play quarterback in that offense no matter who the quarterback was,” Miles said.
He was referring to the 3-3-5 defense and the penalties that caused obvious passing situations. It's all from his Monday press conference. He's right and I'm no miles homer.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 2:57 pm to Boh
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Not sure where this is coming from. It's been anything BUT obvious that he will put Lee in.
+1 on this. Its obvious Miles would rather anything other than putting Lee in the game.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:01 pm to rutiger
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how bad must lee be that he cant over take jj???
He isn't bad enough to not overtake him. Miles is a dullard.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:04 pm to geauxjudge
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a D1 Head Coach
FBS or FCS?
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:06 pm to tigereye58
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He was referring to the 3-3-5 defense and the penalties that caused obvious passing situations. It's all from his Monday press conference. He's right and I'm no miles homer.
Not buying that.
W Va, at home has allowed 123 yds and 227 yds passing, and gave up 229 yds passing on the road. None of those teams were ranked, SEC teams.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:11 pm to Boh
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Give Miles credit. He’s doing his best to make sure he doesn’t lose Jefferson, who undoubtedly has to be pretty fragile right now
Jefferson already knows what peoples opinions are of him, shite our passing game is on blast by any analyst who talks LSU.
If anything benching him for a full quarter might light a fire under his arse. His confidence is already about as low as ones can get IMO.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:12 pm to TIGERFANZZ
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There is a HUGE difference in what that statement might mean & does mean. If JL isn't ready, than that is one thing but if Coach Miles, after seeing the last 3 games, doesn't think JJ is struggling, then that is a HUGE problemo. With JL's past & the fact that he never has really beaten JJ out at practice, then maybe Coach Miles is really putting the best option (no pun intended) out there??
The comment I would like to make about this is, unless I'm recalling incorrectly, didn't Miles lead everyone to believe there was a huge QB competition going on in fall camp? I know based on some things I read, Miles thought both QB's were competing for the starting position.
If that were true, and I'm not saying you can believe anything the "man" says, then there can't be a significant enough of a difference in their practice performance that would indicate the JL doesn't at least deserve a chance at some meaningful snaps to see what he may have matured into.
I'm not saying JL is the answer, I'm saying we don't know if JL is the answer. So far, we've seen that JJ hasn't improvement much, if at all, from last year.
Thoughts?
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:12 pm to wilfont
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“It wasn’t a great night to play quarterback in that offense no matter who the quarterback was,” Miles said.
Well in his post game interview he mentioned Jefferson would have to be Brett Favre to make some of the plays. So either he lied then or he lied in this article.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:12 pm to geauxjudge
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He did say his current 4th string QB could pass for 150 with the talent LSU has. And he said that with utmost respect.
I can't say that I am very familier with many 4th string QBs from across the country, but I think I would take my chances with just about anyones 4th string right now over what we have.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:13 pm to LSUGradATL
this is from ESPN's Pat Forde talking about the looming LSU-Florida game.
"Why it's interesting: Simply to see how long LSU can continue winning with an absolute mess of an offense. The Tigers are mesmerizingly bad in the passing game, ranking 115th nationally despite having all manner of five-star recruits out there running routes. Starting QB Jordan Jefferson hasn't thrown a touchdown since the opener against The Remains of North Carolina, and hasn't thrown for 100 yards in a game since then either -- but backup Jarrett Lee is a scary option after constantly throwing the ball to the wrong team two years ago. Alleged game-breaker Russell Shepherd had three touches from scrimmage Saturday against West Virginia, for a total of 6 yards. Defensive back/kick returner Patrick Peterson is LSU's best offense at this point."
"Why it's interesting: Simply to see how long LSU can continue winning with an absolute mess of an offense. The Tigers are mesmerizingly bad in the passing game, ranking 115th nationally despite having all manner of five-star recruits out there running routes. Starting QB Jordan Jefferson hasn't thrown a touchdown since the opener against The Remains of North Carolina, and hasn't thrown for 100 yards in a game since then either -- but backup Jarrett Lee is a scary option after constantly throwing the ball to the wrong team two years ago. Alleged game-breaker Russell Shepherd had three touches from scrimmage Saturday against West Virginia, for a total of 6 yards. Defensive back/kick returner Patrick Peterson is LSU's best offense at this point."
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:18 pm to rutiger
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how bad must lee be that he cant over take jj???
This is form another ESPN article over the weekend.
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Unfortunately for LSU fans, it may take a loss for coach Les Miles to replace starting QB Jordan Jefferson with Jarrett Lee.
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For whatever reason -- stubborness probably the leading candidate -- Miles seemingly has cast his lot with Jefferson, and despite Miles' regularly saying that his QB play is lacking and that Lee deserves a chance to show what he can do, this is only the second time that Lee has gotten into a game this fall.
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Which means that as long as LSU keeps winning, Miles isn't likely to shake things up. But that's the great thing about the Tigers under Miles: You know they will falter at some point, which will give Miles the opening he needs to finally make a switch.
Excerpts from article by Albert Lin of ESPN, their CFB Blogger.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:21 pm to mlminbtr
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I'm not saying JL is the answer, I'm saying we don't know if JL is the answer. So far, we've seen that JJ hasn't improvement much, if at all, from last year.
That kind of has bothered me also. We heard all about the competition this spring but now looking at what JJ had done so far this year, does that mean that JL has been competing on JJ's present level that we see now & that was the "competition"? If so.....I can see why Coach Miles doesn't feel comfortable in putting JL in, given his past problems & his last start v/s LA TECH. I mean if this is the level JJ was competing at in the spring & JL didn't surpass him then, it sure would seem foolish to go to option B when that option couldn't even do enough to surpass the problems we have now. As much as I'd love to believe JJ will get better or that JL is the answer, I really am starting to believe that there is a REASON that Coach Miles is sticking with JJ even in light of his miserable performances, maybe he IS the best we've got???
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:21 pm to MoreOrLes
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He’s doing his best to make sure he doesn’t lose Jefferson, who undoubtedly has to be pretty fragile right now.
What I don't understand is why Jefferson apparently has to be treated with kid gloves to prevent his losing his confidence, but Jarrett Lee can be subjected to any and all measure of mental abuse without regard for his confidence level.
Is Lee that much stronger than Jefferson emotionally?
Or, do the coaches just not care what damage they do to Lee?
Or, is Jefferson just unbelievably mentally weak and unable to deal with the normal setbacks football players routinely go through?
Or, is Lee so incredibly horrible that an emotionally wrecked, underperforming, not terribly talented in the first place Jefferson is still not only a better choice but so obviously so that it's not even worth it to give Lee a shot?
I have no idea which of the above is true, and I trust the coaches to have the best player on the field, but one of the above has to be true, given the almost obsessive determination to protect Jefferson's fragile psyche combined with an almost equal determination to subject Lee's to every possible cut-down.
This post was edited on 9/28/10 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:26 pm to geauxjudge
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He said JL has incredible talent but needs to "anticipate" his throws a little more and not wait for the receiver to break
This description sounds more like Jefferson. Are you sure you didn't get the two confused?
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:31 pm to Nuts4LSU
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What I don't understand is why Jefferson apparently has to be treated with kid gloves to prevent his losing his confidence, but Jarrett Lee can be subjected to any all measure of mental abuse without regard for his confidence level.
Amen.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:38 pm to Doc Fenton
You gotta admire Lee
The guy takes shite from the fans and now the head coach yet he is still committed.
I hope he gets an opportunity and makes the most out of it just for that.
The guy takes shite from the fans and now the head coach yet he is still committed.
I hope he gets an opportunity and makes the most out of it just for that.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:40 pm to Doc Fenton
What I don't get his how at LSU with two NC in the last 7 years can we be at this position. How can we not have a viable quarterback on this team. How can men who have been around the sport and coached at the pro level, frick something up so bad when it comes to judging talent and mental capabilities? How?
This post was edited on 9/28/10 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:46 pm to MoreOrLes
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Jefferson will remain his starter, but it’s obvious that Miles won’t be hesitant to go to Jarrett Lee.
It's obvious the writer is missing the obvious.
Miles will not go with JL.
The writer has not has as many games with Miles talking about change and improvement.
Posted on 9/28/10 at 3:51 pm to TigerFanNKaty
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How can we not have a viable quarterback on this team. How can men who have been around the sport and coached at the pro level, frick something up so bad when it comes to judging talent and mental capabilities? How?
Easy answer. We don't have a QB coach that can:
1) Teach a QB fundamentals, whether it involve throwing mechanics or how to read a defense.
2)Evaluate high school QBs well
90% or our problems are related to Crowton, as he is both the OC and QB coach. Hard to believe anyone can screw up an offense worse than he has over the past three years.
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