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re: Does winning the CWS keep people here?

Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12040 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:20 pm to
MLB Network showcased Crews, Skenes, and Jay Johnson. With the success and the publicity, top line recruits should keep LSU baseball amongst the top 10 programs for a long while.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24511 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:23 pm to
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He was applying for everything.
yours unreal
Posted by LostTiger27
Member since Aug 2019
327 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:35 pm to
Will Shores be a draft eligible sophomore? If so, will he have a roster spot next year? I assume due to the timing of his injury that he won't be healthy all next season and would be drafted if eligible
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77733 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:51 pm to
He must not be too hard to work for if yeskie is coming work for him again
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2076 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 6:53 pm to
Guess winning the CWS is what made it not so hard.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16540 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:02 pm to
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He must not be too hard to work for if yeskie is coming work for him again


I guess the premise in the OP is Jay is hard to work (and play) for?.

But Yeskie and Collins, Cooper, and Berry all chose to come here.

CJJ gave Wes glowing reviews in his last CWS press conference. Didn't sound like any tension.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72290 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:02 pm to
God, you’re a dickhead

How about just post what you know, or think you know. Just do that instead of asking people less informed than you.

Or better than all of that, just shut the frick up
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3024 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:16 pm to
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The coaches were not purposely trying to put the pitching staff in positions where they couldn’t succeed. I don’t buy that we blew two games in a row to last place Miss State with the SEC title in grasp just to “hold auditions for the postseason”. The coaching staff made adjustments after that weekend, and I applaud them for it. The coaching staff did a great job of in season “self evaluation”.


They weren’t purposefully putting them into positions where they COULDN’T succeed. They were putting them in positions to learn, grow and be challenged. They lost one of the games against Miss St doing that with Hurd. We see the dividends that paid after that. They lost the other game trying to do the same with Little and others. That, unfortunately, didn’t work out. They didn’t purposefully lose those games, but they also didn’t prioritize winning those games at all costs over continuing to improve.

Your interpretation of the events requires believing that a coach who took Arizona to 2 CWS and won the title this year only figured out how to coach after the Miss St series. It requires believing that a pitching coach who was considered one of the best in MLB and had had great success at 2 other SEC schools didn’t know how to do his job until the end of the year. Not only that, it requires believing that they just flipped a switch and suddenly learned something they didn’t know before.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2102 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:30 pm to
How about you go frick yourself
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85168 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:33 pm to
Look, I do respect your posts for the most part. You want to share information that most others aren’t willing to share… yet. But your personal feelings about people comes through more than your fandom making it difficult to avoid wondering what your motive is.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
72290 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:40 pm to
Exactly. He’s worried his access may be in jeopardy. Classic program leech behavior. frick that guy.
Posted by Naptime
Member since Sep 2020
2102 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:52 pm to
My access is not in jeopardy until I retire and that very well be at the end of the year. I’m far from a leech you little punk. And Ell what personal feelings have I expressed? I have always tried to be factual. Very few times have I stated my opinion
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 7:55 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19374 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:01 pm to
Twelve year olds yelling at each other here gets old. We called them High School Harrys back in my days. Take your personal attacks elsewhere, and that is all of you. CJJ has said, several times, that he meets regularly with every player on the team & lays out his plans for each. Point being, he's very aware of the dynamics involved in building a team & actually plans for each scenario. He's also said that he wants to build a program, and that means having a foundation of high school recruits on his rosters. He was asked on the field post game if things had worked out as he had planned. "Not to be arrogant, but yes, exactly as we planned going back to Aug."
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62191 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:02 pm to
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Your interpretation of the events requires believing that a coach who took Arizona to 2 CWS and won the title this year only figured out how to coach after the Miss St series. It requires believing that a pitching coach who was considered one of the best in MLB and had had great success at 2 other SEC schools didn’t know how to do his job until the end of the year.


My interpretation is that Jay Johnson told Wes Johnson to quit calling pitches to get swings and misses and start calling pitches to get ahead in the count and make life easier on the pitchers. Wes Johnson wasn’t calling the pitches for the Minnesota Twins.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62191 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:07 pm to
Your interpretation would be that Jay and Wes watched these pitchers in all of the fall practices/scrimmages, in the winter practices/scrimmages, and then again for 51 games in the regular season, but only after the Miss State series (games 48-51) did they learn what pitchers they could count on, and what pitches were their best.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3024 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:16 pm to
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but only after the Miss State series (games 48-51) did they learn what pitchers they could count on, and what pitches were their best.


No, my interpretation was that they were trying to help pitchers work through their issues. It worked for some, but not for others. Ideally, they would have found 1-2 more postseason contributors. Game 2 against Florida exposed that. It wasn’t after Miss St anyway. Little pitched again against Georgia and Dutton pitched against Georgia and in the SEC tournament.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3024 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:27 pm to
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Wes Johnson wasn’t calling the pitches for the Minnesota Twins.


He didn’t call pitches at Miss St and Arkansas?
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1193 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:45 am to
Got down voted earlier this year, but felt like Wes and Jay were not in sync mid-year. Believe it even more now.

Wes has proven he is very good with pitchers, but is partially accountable for midyear relief pitching woes. I imagine he and Jay had some stress between them. It happens when expectations are so high and a team struggles a bit. We adjusted the way we called pitches and it worked. This likely played into Wes deciding to bolt. Most coaches with the talent that both these guys have can make them stressful to work with.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
1193 posts
Posted on 7/2/23 at 8:48 am to
If you don't know, then zero chance most of us would know. Not sure why you are getting down-voted for asking.
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