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re: Does LSU have a men's soccer team?

Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by The Sundance Kid
Park City, Utah
Member since Jan 2010
685 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Don't let baseballs popularity down south fool you into thinking it's like that in most parts of the country.


I think the cities of New York, Boston, Philadelphia & Chicago would disagree with you.

College baseball may not be very popular throughout the country, but baseball itself is still very popular throughout the country.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:55 pm to
USA doesn't have a men's soccer team anymore. Killed it about two years ago.

The problems with American Soccer are two fold.

1) As you guys point out there is no where to go. If you are a great athlete it is better to be a 5 Star anything than a Soccer player. There are no scholarship opportunities here for boys. If you are a girl you are golden. My son is a great Youth goalie in Alabama, that an five dollars gets you a cup of Coffee at Starbucks. Anywhere else in the world and he would be a celebrated player with lots of opportunities. not here.

2) Youth Soccer is an expensive suburban sport in this country. It cost 2k plus per season even here in bama. Youth Coaches get paid, tournaments are expensive and their is a lot of money in Youth soccer. Anyone can play Youth baseball and football, it it cost a few hundred bucks and fees are waived every where and coaches rarely get paid, travel is not that bad except for Baseball Allstar teams.

3) To prove my point, on River Monsters last year Jeremy was going on a trip deep into the Amazon hundreds of miles past civilization with no power lights etc guided by local tribes man. These people were living in hunts off the land etc. National geographic shite.

He had to stop one day as the local village that was hosting him had a big soccer match with a neighboring village. They did have shite but they had a soccer field, and a ball and a team. I looked to my son as said "That is why we suck at soccer." Like our Brit Coach says "Everywhere else in the world the best athletes are Soccer Players. (He Said Football of course) Here they are baseball, American football, and basketball, and everything but Soccer here in the states."

We can't even get fields built for the whole freaking city of Mobile, and have almost no poor kids in any league. And yes Title IX is part of it, even the schools with Soccer teams usually only have a few scollys a year and that almost always goes to foreign strikers.

So it is really amazing that we are even competitive at the world level at all.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40202 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:59 pm to
Why can't LSU just form a team then with Tops players. Should be enough smart guys from Jesuit, St. Paul's etc.
Posted by GoGeauxGaux
Member since Apr 2014
186 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:04 pm to
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Are you just making stuff up?

Look at Texas and OU. Texas has 8 men's sports and 10 women's sports. OU has 9 men's sports and 10 women's sports.

LSU has 8 men's sports and 10 women's sports.


Someone else already pointed out that I said Big 10, not Big 12, but just give some actually numbers for comparison...

Penn State sponsors 29 teams

Ohio State sponsors 29

Michigan sponsors 27

MSU sponsors 25

etc... Some of the other schools sponsor fewer, but on average, they sponsor more, sometimes with less revenue than LSU has.
Posted by The Sundance Kid
Park City, Utah
Member since Jan 2010
685 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 7:16 pm to
Our country has over 300 million people.

There's plenty of potential soccer players out there. Just have to find them and replace the football/basketball/baseball with a soccer ball.

Uruguay has just over 3 million and advanced to the round of 16 today.

It's a numbers game to field a team.

The USA could & should dominate at soccer.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:26 pm to
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Look at many schools in the Big 10. They have to follow Title IX rules just like everybody else, and their revenue is comparable to that of SEC schools, but they sponsor far more sports for both men and women.


That is very true. The Big Ten sponsors more men's and women's teams than the SEC and it is about priorities and values. The SEC historically has not had as many sports in mens and women's.

The SEC figures to put more resources into fewer sports like football. So if you want SEC strength in football you can't sponsor as many sports. If the Big Ten had the same number of teams as the SEC in sports the gap wouldn't be that big in football.

A mens soccer team may mean fewer resources for football. There's only so much money to go around the facilities arms race in FB and BB means that more money has to go there than to a soccer field and coach. Do you want the best locker room for FB or the 4th best and a mens soccer team?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 8:30 pm to
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Penn State sponsors 29 teams

Ohio State sponsors 29

Michigan sponsors 27

MSU sponsors 25



If you went to Nick Saban and Les Miles and told them that Alabama and LSU were going to sponsor 27 teams they would blow their stack. Michigan State sponsors 25 teams on fewer resources than LSU and Alabama.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 8:31 pm
Posted by MottLaneKid
Gonzales
Member since Apr 2012
4543 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 4:30 pm to
Maybe we can add women's badminton ?
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14506 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:06 pm to
Or Rowing, Water Polo, Women's rugby, or Equestrian. Hell, add all 4.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 6:45 pm to
I have no clue but I'll sure be glad when this World Cup shite comes to end .

At this point it's beyond annoying.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65655 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 9:40 pm to
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I have no clue but I'll sure be glad when this World Cup shite comes to end . At this point it's beyond annoying.


To some folks. It's a month every four years.

MLB is in full swing, watch that instead. There's like eleventy hundred MLB games per week.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5001 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:02 pm to
It's soccer. Other than a few days every four years, no one cares.
Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5001 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:37 pm to
It's soccer. Other than a few days every four years, no one cares.
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:17 am to
LSU doesn't need another non-revenue sport. Every 4 years or so when the World Cup is played the claims of Soccer popularity go crazy. It's a sham.
Soccer isn't played at many high schools and isn't a sport that is going to sustain itself via
fan support or TV revenue. It's a loser.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 7:28 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:52 am to
All of the 5A high schools in my area field men's soccer teams. One of the other issues regarding popularity, at least locally, is when the high schools have their season. Soccer is played in December through March, just like basketball season, outdoors. Most kids would simply rather be inside playing basketball where they have a future.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14506 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:19 am to
But wouldn't you love to potentially start adding some more SEC/National Championship banners?
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:29 am to
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Side note: Lacrosse is the fastest growing sport in the US. I can see this happening before soccer for a lot of schools. It's very popular in the Northeast already.


It's getting pretty big in Texas too.
Posted by spike0311
Member since Sep 2012
177 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:01 am to





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Does LSU have a men's soccer team?
LSU doesn't need another non-revenue sport. Every 4 years or so when the World Cup is played the claims of Soccer popularity go crazy. It's a sham.
Soccer isn't played at many high schools and isn't a sport that is going to sustain itself via
fan support or TV revenue. It's a loser.


It will never be as popular as football, but more kids play youth soccer in this country than any other sport than basketball. MLS teams have doubled in value in the last 5 years to where the avg team is worth $125 million, and the league is profitable and expanding. The Seattle Sounders avg 40k fans per game. The only country that purchased more WC tickets than the US was the host Brazil. Keep your head in the sand if you like, but soccer has its place in the US sports scene and it is not going anywhere.
This post was edited on 6/27/14 at 9:08 am
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 9:50 am to
That's correct. KIDS play it and then they move on to Football, Basketball, or Baseball when they get a little older.

As for the High Schools which play Soccer. Nobody attends the games but parents or relatives for the most part. That's because nobody cares. Soccer is a money loser in college and is a money loser in High School as well.

We have been hearing crap like "Soccer is the sport of the future" for decades now and it is no more partr of the American culture now than it was back 20 or 30 years ago. Every 4 years or so when the World Cup comes along all the Soccer fans start the same old diatribe we have been hearing forever. It's really lame.

Sure let's have LSU form a damn soccer team and go play South Carolina or Georgia or Florida or Mizzouri and see what numbers those games draw. There will be no crowds and even you Soccer fans will hardly turn out and then LSU will be stuck with paying a coach and losing millions on yet another sport which can't pay for itself.

This is the damn truth and if it hurts that's just too damn bad.
Posted by Tiger n Austin
Austin, Tx
Member since Dec 2005
6682 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 10:06 am to
New TV Deal for MLS -close to $1B

MLS league also averages more attendance per game than NHL and the NBA, but yeah it is "no more part of the American culture now than it was back 20 or 30 years ago."
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