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re: Does College Baseball need to change in any significant ways?

Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:06 pm to
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He wasn’t just left, he ran in the infield grass 3/4 of the way down the line
That’s totally natural for a right handed hitter. Look at the pic I posted.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:07 pm to
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The automated strike zone is inevitable to some degree, Agree 1000% These umps were changing the strike by innings and batters at times. I understand the tradition of the game as long as the zone is consistent. But I think it would be nice if the zone was the same for every game, every batter, and every pitcher.

If we have an automated strike zone, the zone needs to be expanded. College pitchers aren’t good enough to pitch to an MLB strike zone.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:07 pm to
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hey have already addressed this several times, first by expanding the field in the postseason and then moving the season back to accommodate cold weather schools. Apparently that is not enough.




probably need to move it another month later... that way the CWS can end the last week of July and it'll be football season a week later
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:09 pm to
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He wasn’t just left, he ran in the infield grass 3/4 of the way down the line
That’s totally natural for a right handed hitter. Look at the pic I posted.



that rule has been around a long time, umps go easy on it more often than not but that dude never set one foot in the running lane, definitely intentional and I'm glad he was called on it
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:09 pm to
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College pitchers aren’t good enough to pitch to an MLB strike zone.
Yes they are.

I would expect BB’s to increase somewhat though. No more six inches off the plate called strike threes though.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:11 pm to
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The Florida runner last night was in fair territory the whole way to the base Violation the correct call was made period
Can spell period, but doesn’t know how to use one.

Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:11 pm to
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College pitchers aren’t good enough to pitch to an MLB strike zone.


You mean they would have to throw more strikes or balls closer to the corner?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:17 pm to
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that dude never set one foot in the running lane, definitely intentional and I'm glad he was called on it
He comes out of the batter’s box and yes, he is on the grass but he’s angling towards the bag as he’s running to first. It was a slow roller to the pitcher so it wouldn’t make sense for him to try to “block” the throw from the pitcher. That only works if the person fielding the ball is behind you or angled behind you.

Full replay. Twitter
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:25 pm to
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With the way balls and strikes were called all year in the SEC I think automating that should be priority 1


I don’t think you’re gonna like the results
Posted by TigerDM
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:28 pm to
The rule typically applies to when the runner have his right foot on the line or in fair territory, not when your left foot is barely inside of the line and no contact is made.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:29 pm to
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Yes they are.



i know you know LSU is one out of 305 teams. The SEC is 14 out of 305... Power 5 schools are 61 out of 305... add about 60 other good teams...

half of college baseball is pretty shitty
Posted by SETH6180
TEXAS
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:30 pm to
100% will like the results of balls being balls and strikes being strikes. How can anyone argue against an accurate/consistent zone is beyond me?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:31 pm to
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The rule typically applies to when the runner have his right foot on the line or in fair territory, not when your left foot is barely inside of the line and no contact is made.

If you watch the video I posted, his last step (right foot) before he touched the bag was on the foul line, then touched the bag with his left foot.

I’m just trying to be fair here, because I’d be furious if that was called on an LSU player.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 1:39 pm
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:36 pm to
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half of college baseball is pretty shitty
I think you’re underestimating the ability of college pitchers.

At worst, it increases offensive output for all teams because batters can be more selective at the plate if they’re not worried about an ump punching them out on some shite off the plate.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65109 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:36 pm to
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You mean they would have to throw more strikes or balls closer to the corner?

I mean the vast majority of college pitchers don't have the command to pound the actual strike zone. If we had an automated strike zone with college pitchers using an MLB strike zone, most games would be complete walk fests, even more so than they are already. Most college pitchers aren't Paul Skenes or Aaron Nola.

The worst team, by walks per 9 innings, in the MLB last year was Cincinnati with 3.87 walks per 9. 13 teams were under 3 walks per 9. This year, in college baseball, with umpires who expand zones way more than umps do at the major league level, there were only 4 teams out of ~300 total teams at the D1 level who threw fewer than 3 per 9: Wofford, Wake Forest, Tennessee, and Elon.

The mean in college baseball this year was ~4.62 walks per 9 innings. LSU was slightly below the mean at 3.98.

If "throwing more strikes" was so simple a solution, walks wouldn't have been such a problem for our staff for the vast majority of this season. We weren't walking guys because the umps' zones were inconsistent. We were walking guys because we had a lot of command issues, most college pitchers do which is why they're in college and not playing pro ball.

I think our fans only remember the strikes that were called balls but don't remember the more frequent instances of balls being called strikes.
This post was edited on 6/28/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:37 pm to
another thing that I noticed, and it turned out to be of no consequence, was the ump that was hit with a line drive immediately called timeout, I don't keep up as much as I used to but iirc, the ump is part of the field, I'd have been pissed if we would have had a runner on third
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:37 pm to
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another thing that I noticed, and it turned out to be of no consequence, was the ump that was hit with a line drive immediately called timeout, I don't keep up as much as I used to but iirc, the ump is part of the field, I'd have been pissed if we would have had a runner on third



It was a dead ball when it hit him.

It was my favorite play of the game.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65109 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:40 pm to
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I'd have been pissed if we would have had a runner on third

we would have been given the run if that had been the case.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:40 pm to
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It was my favorite play of the game.



too bad it wasn't the strike zone challenged ump that was behind the plate against WF
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29678 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:43 pm to
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I'd have been pissed if we would have had a runner on third
A runner on third would have easily scored. Now second base would have been a disaster as that hit should have definitely scored someone from second if it doesn’t hit him.

Hell, it was hit so hard, it would have probably made it to the wall in left center for an easy stand up double for Tanks.
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