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re: Does CEO really have a 12 million buyout?

Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by countryboy2
Zimbabwe
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 8:51 pm to
Will bump thread every hour of every day until Alleva is gone.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72993 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:05 pm to
it really is surreal.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56485 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

folks need to realize that we he hitched our trailer to the wrong horses, we got turned down and had to settle
in w world that contains three football coaches in total your rationale is solid.

We however live in a nation with 100 better choices. O was going to be lucky to be employed. He had no leverage
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10472 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:18 pm to
Unless they have cause to fire him, LSU is fricked for the foreseeable future. Honestly, just have him framed for calling up escort services and save everyone the headache of the next 5 years of horrific football.
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
1092 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:21 pm to
What can you do about it? Alleva is apparently not only the AD, but also a vice chancellor... I don't know how he maneuvered himself into that position, or are there several VCs? Anyway, that's an unusual title to be associated with an AD, and it would not be that easy to get rid of him if it carries weight.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:36 pm to
Even if buyout was smaller alleva kindof handcuffed. If we fire the coach after 1 year after a regime change and a new staff coming in it's a bad road to go down. Who would come then ?? The only way is fire the AD which is almost an automatic HC move anyway or at least a big fail this year and next. We're in this for 2-3 years and gotta hope this staff gets it together. With a lot of pressure on O and the program I don't see Raymond staying. He's a very hot commodity and someone may take a chance and offer him a D.C. Job.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56455 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:40 pm to
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8.5 buyout after 2 years is manageable

The 2 years is not. That will translate to the better part of a decade of rebuilding.

The same soccer moms who kept Les around to frick up yet another season, wanted this idiot. Feelings, not logic.

And to the guy who thinks he's a contract genius, if O or his agent had demanded anywhere neat that level of a buyout, I'd laugh them out of my office. I guarantee that within 12 hours they'd come crawling back. If not, good. I'd be able to go get an actual, good coach.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
9533 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 9:55 pm to
Use your brains guys.

Alleva realized he and O were attached at the hip. It only benefitted Alleva's job security to keep O around as long as possible to give him a long term chance of succeeding.

As soon as O is out so is Alleva.

The real head scratcher is why Alexander (probably greased in one way or another) and the BOS (poor leadership) approved this ridiculous buyout.

Mind numbingly stupid.
Posted by lrlafayette
Member since Sep 2017
297 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:07 pm to
I could be wrong but I just looked it up and it's a 5yr contract not 3. I've been curious as to why people keep saying 3yrs.
Posted by lrlafayette
Member since Sep 2017
297 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:08 pm to
I do believe it's a 5yr contract. Just looked it up.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7958 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:10 pm to
I'm a little more perplexed by the 5 year contract than the big buyout. 5 years on a completly unproven coach?!?!?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87515 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:25 pm to
He traded salary for a guaranteed payout

Remember the narrative was he was giving up salary for aranda and the new OC
Posted by NAsh-vegas Tigah
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2004
2331 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:41 pm to
Solo, sad to say it, but I think you are spot on.
Posted by NAsh-vegas Tigah
Franklin, TN
Member since Jan 2004
2331 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:48 pm to
I still can't believe this..... we have to have the all time worst AD in the history of NCAA. Dude must go! He has taken LSU down so hard with this move.

How the F do you give a coach with such a bad track record as Zero such a buyout?? This has to be wrong?
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27889 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:51 pm to
It's a pretty standard contract. If he isn't worth a standard contract then the problem isn't the contract.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72993 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:53 pm to
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He traded salary for a guaranteed payout



ok so once this season is done he is guaranteed 15 million regardless what happens moving forward based on contract and buyout.

Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66198 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:57 pm to
I had zero leverage

None

Yet they still pay him
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:00 pm to
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once this season is done he is guaranteed 15 million regardless what happens moving forward based on contract and buyout.


I am heading to BTR as fast as I can to negotiate a contract with LSU for anything I possibly can, whether they need it or not, I can't lose!
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76541 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

Alleva realized he and O were attached at the hip. It only benefitted Alleva's job security to keep O around as long as possible to give him a long term chance of succeeding.

This is a good point. But then, why did Alleva hire O in the first place if he had so little faith? Most ADs would hire a coach they have confidence in, but still retain the ability to fire him.
Does this mean maybe Alleva didn't actually want O but was pressured into the hire?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

really is the most boneheaded and unbelievable aspect of a saga that had a shitload of such moments


I still can't understand what made them agree to that. What was so going to do, walk away? Lol
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