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re: Does anyone want Crowton to stay?
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:25 pm to the LSUSaint
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:25 pm to the LSUSaint
If i gave you a rifle that for me, was dead on and i'd never missed with it and you took it and missed everytime you shot......... is it the gun or is it you?
pretty sure you are smart enough to get the point.
This post was edited on 11/29/10 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:26 pm to mt1
I want him to stay because I've seen what he can with an offense if he has a QB who is moderately competent. We have no such QB.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:26 pm to the LSUSaint
I really believe JJ is truly awful and makes Crowton look worse but some of the calls he makes leaves everyone scratching their heads.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:27 pm to NorfolkTiger
quote:I was gonna say about the same thing. it doesnt matter who the OC is next yr, if JJ is starting we'll see sorry arse play out of the offense. Or Lee either one.
I really believe JJ is truly awful and makes Crowton look worse but some of the calls he makes leaves everyone scratching their heads.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:30 pm to NorfolkTiger
quote:
I really believe JJ is truly awful and makes Crowton look worse
are you sure it's not the other way around?
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:33 pm to Roberteaux
quote:
are you sure it's not the other way around?
hmmmmmmmmmmmm let me think about this.
I think I'll go with the guy that has the years of hs, college and professional experience under his belt.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:36 pm to mt1
Not me. Thanks for the memories, Gary - both of 'em.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 12:47 pm to mtntiger
At this point, the answer doesn't really matter.
Crowton's reputation has sufffered so much (deservedly, in my opinion, but it matters not) that good QB recruits have to think twice before coming here, despite a great chance to start.
Crowton's reputation has sufffered so much (deservedly, in my opinion, but it matters not) that good QB recruits have to think twice before coming here, despite a great chance to start.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 1:48 pm to Rex
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Anybody who couldn't figure out a way to get Russell Shepard more involved with a higher impact doesn't deserve to stay.
Winner!!!
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:00 pm to mt1
Yes!
signed,
His wives and children.
signed,
His wives and children.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:00 pm to BT
quote:
I think I'll go with the guy that has the years of hs, college and professional experience under his belt.
You mean the guy that destroyed BYU's program and made Dennis Dixon look like Corky from Life Goes On?
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:02 pm to mt1
No, its painfully obvious he cannot develop the QB position and get the ball to his playmakers.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:05 pm to RogerTheShrubber
frick no
Crowton is a joke and needs to go as of last year.
Crowton is a joke and needs to go as of last year.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:05 pm to mt1
quote:
Does anyone want Crowton to stay?
11 other SEC teams.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:07 pm to northLAgoomba
quote:
Does anyone want Crowton to stay?
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11 other SEC teams.
good one!
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:15 pm to mt1
If Les keeps him then I am perfectly OK with this. I think everybody should leave Les alone about Crowton. Les will win a West Title with Crowton or go down with Crowton.
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:18 pm to Antonio Moss
BT, execution is the responsibility of the coaches as well. (see Saban) At this level they recruit and bring the players up, tecah them their set skills etc. But if you are saying it is all JJ Lee's fault, since JJ cant learn the plays, and Lee, hell he doesnt play long enought to be able to tell, then a "good coach" woud simplify the system, but in checks, more runs, explain it better, etc. Sometimes you have to adjust your system to your personal, (see Parkview Baptist) Not to suggest that Crowton is anything the offensive coach G is, as he was a top ten offensive coach his whole college career, not a bottom ten. But when local high school coaches seem to get it better than your million dollar man, he have problems. Maybe he could ask Coach G for help/ (LOL)
Since we cant fire JJ, or Lee, who is a gutsy kid like him or not, what do you suggest we do?
or are you happy with our bottom twenty offense?
If we get Mettenberg, and we still suck, (and we will)will you concede?
I appreciate your point, and it is hard to tell whether it is the system or execution as both are so bad, but I just think we need a change here. But time will tell
Since we cant fire JJ, or Lee, who is a gutsy kid like him or not, what do you suggest we do?
or are you happy with our bottom twenty offense?
If we get Mettenberg, and we still suck, (and we will)will you concede?
I appreciate your point, and it is hard to tell whether it is the system or execution as both are so bad, but I just think we need a change here. But time will tell
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:20 pm to BT
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If i gave you a rifle that for me, was dead on and i'd never missed with it and you took it and missed everytime you shot......... is it the gun or is it you? pretty sure you are smart enough to get the point
Going from your example, let's just say Jordan Jefferson is generally a pretty good shot but needs much more professional instruction. Gary Crowton handed him the rifle without sighting it in for JJ and let him continue to shoot to high/low/left/right without providing him the proper instruction. Even if you have a perfect gun, if you don't learn where the shooter's weaknesses are and correct them, the best gun in the world won't work.
Gary Crowton's job is not only to come up with a great scheme, it is to adapt that scheme to his players, and most importantly to develop and teach his players so that they improve and become better. I refuse to believe that with the athletes on this offense, that they are the main reason this offense ranked #103.
If one player isn't improving, it's the player's fault. If three players aren't improving, it's the position coach, if the whole offense isn't improving, it's the OC.
This post was edited on 11/29/10 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 11/29/10 at 2:20 pm to Roberteaux
quote:
I really believe JJ is truly awful and makes Crowton look worse
are you sure it's not the other way around?
If it were just JJ, the guy may have a point. But it's both QB's who have problems leading me to believe it's the QB coach and coordinator, both of whom are Crowton.
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