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Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:10 pm to ShortyRob
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chilge1
Looks like he left his own thread....Getting OWNED here............
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:19 pm to dukke v
quote:I should have asked him a better question.
Looks like he left his own thread....Getting OWNED here............
How many P5 schools in the last 5 years have fielded a guy for more than half the season who was rated 96th or worse and that guy continued to start and has a shot to CONTINUE to start?
I mean, I'm sure the number isn't zero, but, I'll bet he doesn't need many fingers.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:30 pm to chilge1
Chilge1
Blake Sims 252-for-391 (64.5 percent) 3,487 yards, 28 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 7 rushing TDs.
After spending 2010 to 2013 as a running back and backup quarterback, Sims started his first career game during the opener of his senior season in 2014.[4][5] On September 20, 2014, he threw for 445 yards against Florida, which was the second most in school history behind Scott Hunter's 484 in 1969.[6] On December 6, 2014 Sims broke the Alabama single season passing yards record which was held by AJ McCarron.[7] In 14 starts, he passed for 3,487 yards, 28 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
Prior to 2014, in 3 years Sims had only attempted 23 passes, had 67 rushes as a running back, had one reception as a WR, and had spent plenty of time as a defensive back. He was a first year starter in 2014 at QB.
The Crimson Tide fired off an SEC-high 1,018 plays on offense — 192 more than the previous season (which is like having an extra three games to score.) More snaps equaled better production, notably in the passing game. Alabama’s 6,783 total yards of offense was the most in the Saban era. He gave up a record number of pts and yds in the Iron Bowl and still won by being more efficient in his fewer trips to the red zone and not having to kick FGs.
Blake Sims was the top ranked QB in the SEC and had 7 rushing TDs
Blake Sims 252-for-391 (64.5 percent) 3,487 yards, 28 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 7 rushing TDs.
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Jennings 111-for-127 (48.9%) 1,611 yds, 11 TDs, 7 INTs, 0 rushing TDS
Amari Cooper had more receptions (124) than AJ had completions and more yds, 1727.
It is very encouraging news from the scrimmages about the passing game and Miles saying the offense is enjoying more pace.
quote:Briefly, as in 3 yrs at RB, WR, and defensive back.
That says nothing about Blake Sims, who played QB in high school, briefly switched positions in college, and returned to his natural position to end his career.
Blake Sims 252-for-391 (64.5 percent) 3,487 yards, 28 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 7 rushing TDs.
After spending 2010 to 2013 as a running back and backup quarterback, Sims started his first career game during the opener of his senior season in 2014.[4][5] On September 20, 2014, he threw for 445 yards against Florida, which was the second most in school history behind Scott Hunter's 484 in 1969.[6] On December 6, 2014 Sims broke the Alabama single season passing yards record which was held by AJ McCarron.[7] In 14 starts, he passed for 3,487 yards, 28 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.
Prior to 2014, in 3 years Sims had only attempted 23 passes, had 67 rushes as a running back, had one reception as a WR, and had spent plenty of time as a defensive back. He was a first year starter in 2014 at QB.
The Crimson Tide fired off an SEC-high 1,018 plays on offense — 192 more than the previous season (which is like having an extra three games to score.) More snaps equaled better production, notably in the passing game. Alabama’s 6,783 total yards of offense was the most in the Saban era. He gave up a record number of pts and yds in the Iron Bowl and still won by being more efficient in his fewer trips to the red zone and not having to kick FGs.
Blake Sims was the top ranked QB in the SEC and had 7 rushing TDs
Blake Sims 252-for-391 (64.5 percent) 3,487 yards, 28 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 7 rushing TDs.
vs
Jennings 111-for-127 (48.9%) 1,611 yds, 11 TDs, 7 INTs, 0 rushing TDS
Amari Cooper had more receptions (124) than AJ had completions and more yds, 1727.
It is very encouraging news from the scrimmages about the passing game and Miles saying the offense is enjoying more pace.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:37 pm to ShortyRob
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I should have asked him a better question.
Or you could have answered the question originally posed rather than deflecting. That's pretty weak.
But yes, your question needs quite a bit of improvement as well. The fact that Jennings played as a true sophomore is unquestionably a failure in recruiting. Gunner Kiel was going to be THE GUY once Mett moved on and when he bailed in the 11th hour, Jennings was our Plan B in 2013.
We haven't had depth at the position for the last 5 years. The issue isn't recruiting shitty players, its that they don't stay, and as a result we haven't given the ones that do opportunity to develop before they are asked to lead the offense.
For the record, here's a list of P5 QBs in 2014 with the same number of years removed from high school as Jennings, who posted better QBRs than he did:
Jared Goff, Cal
Brad Kaaya, Miami
Sefo Liufau, Colorado
Anu Solomon, Arizona
And that's the list.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:38 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Jennings numbers are very deceiving. In SEC play he was bad, most of those TD's were against cupcakes
On one route I might add.
Travin Dural go route
On one route I might add.
Travin Dural go route
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:42 pm to Quid Pro Quo
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JUNIOR (2013): The Crimson Tide's backup quarterback who saw action in eight games ...
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SOPHOMORE (2012): Appeared in 10 games, mostly as a backup quarterback ...
Rolltide.com
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Sims, who spent the previous two seasons as former Alabama quarterback AJ McCarron's backup, wasn't supposed to be his successor.
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:56 pm to chilge1
Just 1 that can complete about 55-60% of the passes.
I don't think they differ enough for a 2 QB system to be feasible.
I don't think they differ enough for a 2 QB system to be feasible.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 1:59 pm to chilge1
Yes Jennings starts and Harris gets promised playing time and Miles responds the situation wasn't right.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 2:17 pm to ShortyRob
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Our QB last year couldn't have started for roughly 80 schools.
As I like to say here in Murfreesboro, TN - that AJ couldn't start for MTSU.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 2:18 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I would hope so, but seeing how Miles seems to eventually decide on one guy no matter how well they are playing, I doubt it. Might see some early in the year.
This is kinda what aim thinking. Unless we struggle against Auburn and MSST, in which case I believe Miles will lean on Jennings, Miles will use the early part of the season to split drives between both guys and determine a starter by November.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 2:23 pm to chilge1
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Miles will use the early part of the season to split drives between both guys and determine a starter by November.
I don't like this idea... Miles needs to step up and name a starter and just go with t... A two qb system in this situation would be bad for both qb's....
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:46 pm to The Pirate King
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Jennings numbers are very deceiving. In SEC play he was bad, most of those TD's were against cupcakes
On one route I might add.
Travin Dural go route
Now it appears to be Chark.
I would like to see the defense take Chark and Dural away and see how each QB reacts.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:49 pm to TNTigerman
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As I like to say here in Murfreesboro, TN - that AJ couldn't start for TSU.
FIFY
Posted on 3/29/15 at 4:58 pm to chilge1
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I agree with many on here that Miles will not allow Harris to win the starting job in practice,
This dumbass statement just left the rest of your post unreadable. Have a down vote.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:04 pm to schwartzy
it would depend on how its handled.
Tom Brady was a backup at Michigan, but he started a lot of games, when the starter was injured.
Miles was a backup at Michigan, but he started a couple of games in a 10-2 Rose bowl champion season when the future NFL star was injured.
I want Harris to get real playing time, no matter how much more poised Jennings is. I would use Harris extensively in all the non-conference games. I want him ready as possible if he has to play due to injury, since Jennings runs. As we see above with Brady and Miles getting to play when the starter went down, it happens. Harris should be groomed to expect playing time under the most adverse circumstances. Jennings banged up with the game on the line vs Alabama with the SEC west championship in the winner's lap.
If Harris develops in the first half of the season to where he clearly can do things Jennings can't, I would be fine with Harris coming in with the game on the line vs the other SEC west contenders.
This kind of speculation is playing blindfolded since we cannot watch the practices.
Tom Brady was a backup at Michigan, but he started a lot of games, when the starter was injured.
Miles was a backup at Michigan, but he started a couple of games in a 10-2 Rose bowl champion season when the future NFL star was injured.
I want Harris to get real playing time, no matter how much more poised Jennings is. I would use Harris extensively in all the non-conference games. I want him ready as possible if he has to play due to injury, since Jennings runs. As we see above with Brady and Miles getting to play when the starter went down, it happens. Harris should be groomed to expect playing time under the most adverse circumstances. Jennings banged up with the game on the line vs Alabama with the SEC west championship in the winner's lap.
If Harris develops in the first half of the season to where he clearly can do things Jennings can't, I would be fine with Harris coming in with the game on the line vs the other SEC west contenders.
This kind of speculation is playing blindfolded since we cannot watch the practices.
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:19 pm to chilge1
Do not put your trust in Less
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:39 pm to chilge1
quote:LOL. Smart of you to avoid the reality that LSU is practically alone in being a P5 school fielding a 96th or worse rated QB that is STILL the starter thereby indicating MASSIVE failure on Miles part in the recruitment and evaluation of QBs.
For the record, here's a list of P5 QBs in 2014 with the same number of years removed from high school as Jennings, who posted better QBRs than he did:
But, to your list. Is that the number of QBs that were RS Sophomores? Did you include non RS sophomores? Freshman? I can't help but notice a rather obvious freshman not included on your list making me doubt your list. I mean, surely you wouldn't restrict yourself to ONLY RS sophomores if you weren't trying to be dishonest, now would you?
ETA. Correction Jennings is obviously not a RS sophomore. So, you didn't include freshman?
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:44 pm to chilge1
Not a two QB system per say, but there will be what we had before Mett and after Mett. In other words we are back to Miles' Choices and qb development methods
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 3/29/15 at 5:45 pm to ShortyRob
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LOL. Smart of you to avoid the reality that LSU is practically alone in being a P5 school fielding a 96th or worse rated QB that is STILL the starter
Sorry, when did this get decided?
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MASSIVE failure on Miles part in the recruitment and evaluation of QBs.
Did you read the whole post or did you get distracted by something shiny?
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But, to your list. Is that the number of QBs that were RS Sophomores? Did you include non RS sophomores? Freshman?
Why would I include players that have an extra year of development compared to Jennings?
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I can't help but notice a rather obvious freshman not included on your list making me doubt your list
By all means, let me know which qualifying freshman I'm forgetting.
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ETA. Correction Jennings is obviously not a RS sophomore. So, you didn't include freshman?
Brad Kaaya
This post was edited on 3/29/15 at 5:46 pm
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