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Disputed 1972 Ole Miss game

Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:30 pm
Posted by theknightswhosay
Southern California
Member since Nov 2010
670 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:30 pm
I've heard very different accounts of people who were there. A lot of people seemed to just think it was an exciting game and didn't notice anything controversial at all, but I've heard that others (even LSU fans) thought it was ridiculous or even humorous that LSU was able to get those three plays off. I was wondering if some of the older people had anything to add.

I read something odd though. This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left. If that's true, weren't games really 59:56 long? If it said 00:00 after that play, the game would have been over even if that really meant there were 0.99s left.

I've also talked to people about the LSU-Auburn game in 2007. The guy caught it with 4 seconds left and another three seconds ticked off. I can't imagine had the ball been dropped (the second-to-last play in Ole Miss 1972 was an incompletion) that the clock would have expired. It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.

LINK
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 3:55 pm to
I will never forget that game..as a boy listening to the radio with my dad, I was on the floor praying for the result I got.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3206 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:08 pm to
I was in the south endzone...

Yeah, I am that old...

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98744 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:11 pm to
My mom (Ole Miss fan) still bitches about that game.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34651 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:17 pm to
was in the student section....turned 21 that night
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:23 pm to
Meh, sometimes the refs frick up the clock, it happens.

Probably happened way more back in the old days than today.
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5070 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left.


That is backwards. If there are no tenths on a clock, then the time would stay on 4 seconds until there were 3 seconds left. So, there could have been 3.1 seconds left with the clock showing 4 seconds.

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It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.


The clock operator can start the clock late or early, and stop it late or early. In the case of the Auburn game, I'm sure if the pass was incomplete, the clock operator would have stopped it right away.
Posted by theknightswhosay
Southern California
Member since Nov 2010
670 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 5:11 pm to
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Meh, sometimes the refs frick up the clock, it happens.


Until this article, I didn't know the operator was actually trying to peak through people to see the quarterback's legs moving. That could definitely account for an extra second, but the fact that they looked at the video frame-by-frame and couldn't see a distinct error I think is telling.
Posted by CarlTech
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
413 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:33 pm to
Was there in the south end zone east side with my dad, I was 15. What a late game comeback. Do not forget the passes were not in the air very long due to Bert's arm and the extremely short field.
Posted by austintexastiger
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2006
1913 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:46 pm to
Posted by theknightswhosay
Southern California
Member since Nov 2010
670 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

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Looked like more than 3 seconds to me, although it looks like it's slowed down, so hard to tell. Jones did have to look a little while and pivoted before he decided to throw.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 7:12 pm
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12326 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:29 pm to
I was in section 12 of the south EZ right where the pass was caught. I think some of the Ole Miss fans are still waiting for the NCAA to award them the game. It's a good thing it was Ole Miss and not Alabama.
Posted by Smoke Green
Tianjin, Peoples Republic of China
Member since Apr 2005
4341 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:50 pm to
some distortion, but here's an audio link to John Ferguson's radio call, of the game winning drive. Pretty cool hearing the horn go off, as Jones throws to Davis.

lsu-ole-miss-72

Posted by nolacoastie
Metairie
Member since Aug 2010
283 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:01 pm to
that interview was great, Bert Jones answered as good as you could possibly want
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35632 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:12 pm to
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC the year before (1971) in Jackson, LSU trailed 24-22 with about 8 seconds to play and threw a quick sideline pass to get into field-goal range. But despite the receiver going out of bounds, the clock ran out and the Tigers were not able to line up for a game-winning FG attempt.

Nobody talks about that, you only hear about the following year's game.

Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8643 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:24 pm to
I can tell you everyone sitting in our section was wondering how the clock didn't strike 12.....
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

This says if the clock shows 00:04, there could be as much as 4.99 seconds left. If that's true, weren't games really 59:56 long? If it said 00:00 after that play, the game would have been over even if that really meant there were 0.99s left.



This is why basketball clocks go to 10ths near the end.

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The guy caught it with 4 seconds left and another three seconds ticked off. I can't imagine had the ball been dropped (the second-to-last play in Ole Miss 1972 was an incompletion) that the clock would have expired. It does seem like there is some ability to favor one team or another as the clock operator.


If the refs are paying attention this should not be a problem at the very end of the game, esp. not now with instant replay.

Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:29 pm to
"Entering Louisiana. Please set your clock back 4 seconds"
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12326 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:35 pm to
We were in the red zone. No problem getting off 2 plays in 4 seconds. We are LSU. Clock management always has and always will be our forte.
Posted by theknightswhosay
Southern California
Member since Nov 2010
670 posts
Posted on 10/24/14 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

It's a good thing it was Ole Miss and not Alabama.


Alabama would have awarded themselves the game and the national title for that season.
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