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re: Did Miles run Fournette into the ground?

Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:13 am to
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:13 am to
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He left the game and I think came back in for a play. Maybe both ankles are an issue?


Yes, he hurt one ankle before the season started. Tried to play vs. Wisconsin but it was clear he wasn't healthy.

At the end of the Auburn game, he hurt the other ankle. Listed as a contusion. He had swelling that night and following day. It would take a few weeks for that to heal.

He had a high ankle sprain before the season started and those take forever to heal.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:15 am to
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Of course he ran Fournette into the ground.


Glad to see you spread your stupidity equally between tRant and the SB.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:23 am to
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Or you let the best player in CFB play as much as possible


aka running him into the ground

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What good is having RBBC when you have someone as talented as LF7


you think LF is better at 80% than Guice at 100%?

Do you think it is fair or in the best interest of LF to run him when he is banged up and you have 2 capable back ups?
Posted by pellietigersaint
Tiger Stadium
Member since Aug 2005
19043 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:26 am to
OP,

No
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:56 am to
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aka running him into the ground


Except that his injury has nothing to do with the number of carries he had....

And no, giving a player ~25 carries is not "running them into the ground". Running someone into the ground is giving them 30+ carries imo. Herny went over 30 carries 5x last season and over 40 twice.

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you think LF is better at 80% than Guice at 100%? 


I think it's close.

Wait, are we now saying that LF7 was run into the ground this year? The only games he got significant carries in are games where he looked a lot healthier than 80%.



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Do you think it is fair or in the best interest of LF to run him when he is banged up and you have 2 capable back ups?


I don't know the extent of his injury or how the risk involved with it. The only game that he was truly a workhorse (and that is still a stretch imo) was the MSU game.

He certainly hasn't been run into the ground in 2016. That's ridiculous. Les would still be coaching this season if he "ran him into the ground" against Auburn

This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 11:02 am
Posted by ATL-TIGER-732
ATL
Member since Jun 2013
2291 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:00 am to
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quote:because Les would not play a quarterback who could complete a 10 yard pass.

which QB would that be? - Choctaw

2016 Rosters

7 quarterbacks on the roster.

And Anthony Jennings just transferred out.

Is it just a run of bad luck for LSU?

College football: 9 top-scoring freshman quarterbacks
Sep 28, 2016 10:17 EDT
quote:

Freshmen quarterbacks start for multiple of powerful programs this year, including Alabama, Texas and Florida State. And, in 2012 and 2013, the Heisman Trophy went to freshmen quarterbacks.

Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:01 am to
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Did Miles run Fournette into the ground?

Miles ran the joy of watching football into the ground since Jan 2012, he stayed 5 years too long.
Posted by Commando
Never Never Land
Member since Jan 2009
2810 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:18 am to
Auburn was aiming for his ankle on every tackle. They continue to teach their players to do everything they can to seriously injure their opponents. No different than the Spaz Ramsey days. They DGAF if they ruin a kids career or not.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:20 am to
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He certainly hasn't been run into the ground in 2016. That's ridiculous


LF 67 carries, Guice 10 carries...that's ridiculous!

That is not how you keep your star healthy and fresh. The first 4 games were the easiest 4 game stretch on our schedule. LF should have been given more rest in Wisc and MS games

Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:20 am to
Yes, just like saban did Derrick Henry last year.


Oh wait.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:23 am to
Wisconsin was twisting his ankle also
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81636 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:23 am to
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LF 67 carries, Guice 10 carries...that's ridiculous!

That is not how you keep your star healthy and fresh. The first 4 games were the easiest 4 game stretch on our schedule. LF should have been given more rest in Wisc and MS games
And yet, nothing would be different.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:31 am to
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And yet, nothing would be different.


Guice wasn't capable of ripping off some large runs when LF takes a breather? I see defenses let their guard down all the time when the star goes out.

Less carries would not raise the odds that LF would be healthier right now?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:32 am to
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LF 67 carries, Guice 10 carries...that's ridiculous!


Yea, I know for a fact that's false given that we actually sat him for a game

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The first 4 games were the easiest 4 game stretch on our schedule


Probably why he only played in 3 of them. And he looked great and healthy against MSU besides his fumbles.

So the actual # through the first 4 games is LF7 67, Guice 29, and the rest of the RBs 16.
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 11:36 am
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:35 am to
Yes. He did.

By scheme, substitution practices and self made necessity.

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:35 am to
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LF should have been given more rest in Wisc and MS games


so subtract what? 10 carries?

would it have made a difference?

or did you want a 50/50 split with Guice?
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:37 am to
I mean we're really bitching about a 23 carry game?

Guice came into the Wisconsin game and fumbled on his first carry. Not a great way to get the ball more

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Less carries would not raise the odds that LF would be healthier right now?


On both his "injuries" during the season, it was a final drive (gonna 100% be in on those situations) where the defender's helmet hit his ankle. This is silly
This post was edited on 10/11/16 at 11:42 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81636 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:38 am to
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Guice wasn't capable of ripping off some large runs when LF takes a breather?
Not what this is about.

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Less carries would not raise the odds that LF would be healthier right now?

No. He was injured on a specific play. Only those of you with irrational hate for Miles are parroting this dumb narrative.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 11:46 am to
hell no and anyone saying he did is an idiot.

he got a high ankle sprain for gods sake. you could do that on your first carry. look that injury up. most athletes continue to play on it for the remainder of a season and yes, it bothers them all year. we are trying to get him 100% healed but that may not work unless he sits the entire season. in retrospect we probably should have not played him at all after he got the injury and he'd already be 100% but second guessing is ALWAYS a hindsight thing.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35405 posts
Posted on 10/11/16 at 12:03 pm to
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Yes, it was reported that he injured his other leg against Auburn.
And within minutes Les sent an obviously injured Fournette back into the game, costing LSU and LF7 dearly.
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