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re: Defensive Talent on 2014 roster rivals 2011
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:07 am to cajunduby
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:07 am to cajunduby
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quote: DT is as suspect as it has been in the last decade for the Tigers.
Wow. Ummm....no.
Even if they are young, we brought in a HAUL last year...not to mention Allen, rasco, Mickey, Quentin and who ever else I am forgetting. We have one or two from this year that COULD provide depth. But bower, lacoture, Bain, Gilmore etc.
Yeah. We're gonna suck bad there!
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:11 am to lynxcat
I thought this thread was going to be about the guys on the 2014 Lsu football roster, and how they were rated with Rival's 2011 rankings.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:13 am to countryboy2
I could also agree that the talent on the roster next year will be very comparable to 2011.
In 2015 I think the defense will be more comparable to 2006 then 2011. The past 2 years we have gone after somewhat bigger guys in the front seven and taller/bigger safeties and cbs.
Take away Matthieu from 2011 and the defense is not as good. But someone like Ron brooks can pull most the slack. I see more talent (out of high school anyway), on the defensive side then 2011. Man for man, they will be just as talented. If they develop of course.
In 2015 I think the defense will be more comparable to 2006 then 2011. The past 2 years we have gone after somewhat bigger guys in the front seven and taller/bigger safeties and cbs.
Take away Matthieu from 2011 and the defense is not as good. But someone like Ron brooks can pull most the slack. I see more talent (out of high school anyway), on the defensive side then 2011. Man for man, they will be just as talented. If they develop of course.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:19 am to BigSquirrel
Valentine
Adams
Paris
Garrett
Are all five star talents. I'll just stop there. That's one at every level. Voohries, Clark and Godeaux will make a lot of noise. Among others.
Adams
Paris
Garrett
Are all five star talents. I'll just stop there. That's one at every level. Voohries, Clark and Godeaux will make a lot of noise. Among others.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 10:21 am
Posted on 2/14/14 at 11:23 am to dreaux
quote:
quote: DT is as suspect as it has been in the last decade for the Tigers.
Wow. Ummm....no.
I think he's saying a positive. LSU has been stacked at DT in the last 10 years so him saying "as suspect as" means not suspect at all.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 11:39 am to countryboy2
I think closer to the 2012 defense, which was still very good. Not 2011 though.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 11:53 am to lynxcat
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Need a new NB
Not necessarily, mills could still slide down and we just bring in another safety. That's what we did in the bowl game
Posted on 2/14/14 at 12:04 pm to countryboy2
Sunshine pumping at its finest. People said our DTs would b great last year and our defense would be better than anybody expected.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 12:04 pm to Chuck U Farley
I really believe Harron will be our new Brockers and could be better if he is coachable. Brockers was a technician with body control and his hands. Having Logan didn't hurt either, I think they could be even better than the 2011 squad but not this year. We could be surprised at how quick they develop and I hope I am. I think they will be better than last year, depth wise anyway. I'm hearing good things about Big Frank! 6'5 305 lean/mean. And I know his wing span and overall length will help him control lineman.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 12:19 pm to lsuhunt555
quote:
Demetrius Hookfin disagrees.
Thomas Dunson laughs at Demetrius.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 12:59 pm to lynxcat
quote:
DT is as suspect as it has been in the last decade for the Tigers.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 1:52 pm to BasilBogomil
quote:
DT is as suspect as it has been in the last decade for the Tigers.
So we realistically expect one of our RS FR to become first round talents even though we have never seen them step on the field?
Do you see how absurd those expectations are?
I expect our young guys at DT to play and be serviceable, but I do not expect them to be a strong point.
Brockers is an anomaly.
a·nom·a·ly
[uh-nom-uh-lee] Show IPA
noun, plural a·nom·a·lies.
1.
a deviation from the common rule, type, arrangement, or form. Synonyms: abnormality, exception, peculiarity.
2.
someone or something that is abnormal or incongruous, or does not fit in; an anomalous person or thing: With his quiet nature, he was an anomaly in his exuberant family. Synonyms: abnormality, exception, peculiarity.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 4:11 pm to learnthehardway
on these boards all the players are over touted or under touted by the wannabe coaches
Posted on 2/14/14 at 4:32 pm to lsuhunt555
quote:
Demetrius Hookfin disagrees
I wanted to slap that guy so bad. running down the field never looking back....ever
Posted on 2/14/14 at 5:13 pm to lynxcat
Expect the unexpected.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 2/14/14 at 6:41 pm to CarRamrod
quote:
same shite before 2011 started
Yeap, Les will never win the sec again was pretty popular before 2011. They had to change it to he won't win a bcs title again.
Posted on 2/14/14 at 7:05 pm to dgnx6
The new ST coach will work with the D Line. So...help me out. Who works with the LBs? How long will it be before the coaches start work on Spring???
Posted on 2/14/14 at 7:24 pm to DandyD
Welter was coming on last year but I expect he will get passed up by either Garret or Beckwith this year. Dt's will be better than last year. Locoture will be better than either Freak or Ego was last year and somebody else out of Herron, Q Thomas, Bain or Gilmore will step up. There is also that big freshman Valintine. DE's are proven and are all returning. LB's will be better than last year by a lot with Beckwith, Debo, Kwon, and Garrett. Starting corners are stars in the making and Thomas is very under rated backup. Also plenty of top flight talent to choose from at safety even if inexperienced (other than Martin).
overall the defense will be way way better than last year but better than 2011? No way, but still one of the better defenses in the SEC (and thus the country)
overall the defense will be way way better than last year but better than 2011? No way, but still one of the better defenses in the SEC (and thus the country)
Posted on 2/14/14 at 10:11 pm to learnthehardway
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Anyone who didn't see flashes of competence bordering on good play towards the end of the season simply didn't want to see it.
He always seems to be around the ball - sometimes he's going the wrong way, sometimes he whiffs on a tackle, sometimes he gets trucked, but he is often the first, second or third guy to the ball carrier and that is encouraging. He did seem to start clicking near the end, although I saw flashes throughout.
He is the quarterback of the defense - he can do 4 or 5 things correctly for every mistake, but the 1 mistake will be glaring and obvious.
Posted on 2/15/14 at 2:30 am to Ace Midnight
Welter always gets blasted (a lot of which deserved based onplay,) but he was the qb on D and setting up alignments, but Barrow was almost as bad. We may have gotten some great 5 star players coming in, but they are still unproven.
Biggest question surrounding this D is weather we get some younger DT's to step up, and if our DE's can get more pressure on the qb. Think LB and secondary play will be better and be the strength of this defense.
Biggest question surrounding this D is weather we get some younger DT's to step up, and if our DE's can get more pressure on the qb. Think LB and secondary play will be better and be the strength of this defense.
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