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Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:50 pm to Space Cowboy
I am not convinced he is good enough to get the job done assuming the "job" is to win the SEC west.
True or false? Etling always at least takes what the defense gives him. FALSE.. Deep ball is poor to the point of not being threatening... Misses wide open layups when under pressure.
True or false? Etling is a playmaker who can take MORE than what the defense gives him. FALSE.. Etling lacks the zip to throw people open and certainly the athleticism to create running opportunities unless completely unharrassed.
The dude is better than what we have had the last few years... Creating the illusion that he is good enough. He can improve. We need him to. Or we need him to be supplanted by a better player.
True or false? Etling always at least takes what the defense gives him. FALSE.. Deep ball is poor to the point of not being threatening... Misses wide open layups when under pressure.
True or false? Etling is a playmaker who can take MORE than what the defense gives him. FALSE.. Etling lacks the zip to throw people open and certainly the athleticism to create running opportunities unless completely unharrassed.
The dude is better than what we have had the last few years... Creating the illusion that he is good enough. He can improve. We need him to. Or we need him to be supplanted by a better player.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:57 pm to Brummy
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Even with LSU not offering until very late, his only other offers from Power 5 schools were Maryland, Rutgers, Syracuse, and Wake Forest, so it wasn't just Les and Cam who weren't that high on him.
Recruiting people weren't high on him because of his size. He doesn't match the profile. However, every once in a while some of people come around that don't fit the profile and thrive. Look at Russell Wilson. Hence, you never know. Scott could turn out to be one of them and if he is more power to him and us.
How good is he at this point, I really don't know. The only thing I heard about him was that he had a very outstanding scrimmage when the freshmen and sophomores scrimmaged during that week off they had. Other than that, I don't know anything other than who he is and his press clippings.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 4:34 pm to Tigerdev
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Etling always at least takes what the defense gives him. FALSE.. Deep ball is poor to the point of not being threatening... Misses wide open layups when under pressure.
I think you’re underestimating Etling’s skill set. Everybody has bad games on occasions and makes bad plays, but Etling had good games too. He also hit a lot of deep passes last year. You are selling Etling’s performances deliberately short for some reason. He was far better than Harris was that’s for damn sure.
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True or false? Etling is a playmaker who can take MORE than what the defense gives him. FALSE.. Etling lacks the zip to throw people open and certainly the athleticism to create running opportunities unless completely unharrassed.
Who said Etling was a Heisman Trophy candidate other than you? Give me a freaking break. He’s a game manager and a game manager with a good OC is all we need to win the SEC. Hell, we won a national championship in 2003 with one. Like I said, if Etling gives us as much as he gave us this year, there isn’t any way we lose four games next year. We shouldn’t have lost four games this year. I blame that on Les Miles more than I blame it on anything else. Not to mention that I consider the Florida game to be a fluke more than it was anything else. I still believe that we could beat Florida 9 out of 10 games this year.
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The dude is better than what we have had the last few years... Creating the illusion that he is good enough. He can improve. We need him to. Or we need him to be supplanted by a better player.
No one is creating the illusion that we will lose four games next year if we don’t have a Heisman Trophy quality quarterback other than you. We’ve won a national championship with Matt Mauck and another one with Matt Flynn and both of them were just game managers. We can win next year with another game manager again depending on the offense. In fact, the only descent quarterback like you are talking about that we have in recent history was Zach Mettenberger and we didn’t even come close to winning a national championship because it takes far more than just a quarterback to win. Your selling LSU and Etling short for some reason.
Anytime we have a good defense like we’ve had this year, and we should have a good defense again next year, we should have an opportunity to win a national championship. Odds are always against us, of course, but in the long-run we’ll win a few of them nonetheless, just like we did in 2003 and 2007.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 5:54 pm to Space Cowboy
quote:Him being better than Harris has absolutely NOTHING to do with this. Etling needs to play better or be supplanted for LSU to beat good defenses consistently. Our offense was abysmal against the best defenses we faced with both Etling and Harris this year.
You are selling Etling’s performances deliberately short for some reason. He was far better than Harris was that’s for damn sure.
quote:A successful game manager is one that can take everything the defense gives freely. Etling has failed to do that. This is simply a fact. Watch the Bama game and see the missed layups. The out pattern is a noodle armed disaster waiting to happen. The deep balls are a complete non-threat. Barely have to be covered.
Who said Etling was a Heisman Trophy candidate other than you? Give me a freaking break. He’s a game manager and a game manager with a good OC is all we need to win the SEC.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:10 pm to Tigerdev
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Him being better than Harris has absolutely NOTHING to do with this. Etling needs to play better or be supplanted for LSU to beat good defenses consistently. Our offense was abysmal against the best defenses we faced with both Etling and Harris this year.
Nobody said anything about him being better than Harris, so I don't know where that comes from or what that's about. In any event, with the exception of the Alabama game, Etling had acceptable games in every game. In the Alabama game considering the offense LSU was forced to play, I kind of doubt any quarterback would have had a decent game. We were more or less doomed from the get go to lose by being forced to play Miles' antiquated old offense. Anyway, other than that one Alabama game, Etling played acceptable and certainly well enough to win in ever other game. Now we obviously didn't win the Florida game, but that was a fluke game. Like I said previously, I feel like if we would have played Florida 10 times this season, LSU would have won 9 out of the 10 games.
Hence, when you say our offense was abysmal against the best defenses we faced with both Etling and Harris this year, I'm wondering what it is you are smoking. Because first of all, the games we lost under Miles are on Miles. The games after Miles were fired are on Coach O, and after Miles was gone, like I said the only game that could be construed as being poor is the Alabama game. In fact, we averaged 475 yards a game after Miles was fired.
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A successful game manager is one that can take everything the defense gives freely. Etling has failed to do that. This is simply a fact.
Obviously, you couldn’t recognize a fact even if it stared you in the face, winked at you, and then spit in your eye. Etling played acceptable for a game manager in every game short of the Alabama game, and given the antiquated offense we were forced to employ during that game, I’m not so sure there is any quarterback that would have done much better given the circumstances. Yet, you are acting as if Etling was an awful quarterback in every game we played, and only someone utterly delusional as you are can be stupid enough to insinuate such a dumb thing.
I’m not by a long shot claiming Etling is a Heisman Trophy Candidate because he is not even close, but nonetheless he is not nearly as abysmal as you are trying to portray him and the LSU team as being. If I were a betting man, I’d bet right now that after Alabama that LSU is the second best team in the SEC right now. Yet if we listened to you, we’d lose four games right now before we could even blink our eyes and you’d blame it all on Etling.
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Watch the Bama game and see the missed layups. The out pattern is a noodle armed disaster waiting to happen. The deep balls are a complete non-threat. Barely have to be covered.
That’s your biggest damn problem; you are so delusional, that you can’t even tell the difference between a layup and a damn pass. Not to mention, that no one ever denied that Etling didn’t have a good game against Bama. He wasn’t the only one, as the entire LSU offense didn’t have a good game either. Very few of our quarterbacks have good games against Alabama when forced to employ Miles’ old antiquated offense, but you can’t take his play in that one game alone, and then pretend as if it was indicative of his play as whole for the entire season, because it was not and it’s not fair to insinuate something so damn stupid. I don’t know what’s wrong with your sense of proportion, but you obviously have lost your mind somewhere along the line. You obviously are more than just a few screws short of making up a full deck. I’d seek mental help if I were you. Go fly a kite and stop boring me to death with your immense stupidity you flake.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:53 pm to Space Cowboy
quote:Umm. I quoted the part where you said it. You been drinking?
Nobody said anything about him being better than Harris
Btw, your entire wall of text amounts to this: You think the entire ineptitude of the offense is fixed by Les Miles being fired.
I think we need a better quarterback going forward. For some reason this rustles your jimmies (probably because you are a baby back bitch).
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:26 pm to Tigerdev
Anyone notice that this thread is sinking. It can't be bumped lmao
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