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re: Danielle Hunter, likely Pro Bowler...Chavis did squat with this kid

Posted on 12/11/16 at 7:35 pm to
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 7:35 pm to
Tarzan coached by Lardass..play like Jane

Tarzan coached by Hardass..play like Tarzan
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 7:41 pm to
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will get that coveted 2nd contract a year sooner.


It will work out for him barring injury, but most early entrants don't ever get that lucrative second contract. If a player has the potential to move up by staying, it pays off more times than not to stay.
Posted by PadreDe21
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 9:50 pm to
Not sure how Danielles lack of development could be taken any other way??
Posted by la champ1
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:07 pm to
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Danielle Hunter, likely Pro Bowler...Chavis did squat with this kid by Tiger in NY

I see it different. Declaring early got him away from coaches that were teaching him nothing and will get that coveted 2nd contract a year sooner.


Exactly. He made the right choice. Another year wasted under those two and his stock likely would have dropped further. Got with coaches that actually taught him to use a variety of techniques to rush the passer.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:13 pm to
Exactly Tiger fans have a habit of shitting in anybody who leaves. Hunters lack of pass rush skills was on Haley not Chavis.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:55 pm to
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Hunters lack of pass rush skills was on Haley not Chavis


Chavis was the DC making $1.5million, and had plenty of opportunities to address Haley's poor coaching. He didn't, just like he didnt do anything to help Myles Garrett.

He didn't coach or recruit. He runs some drills and calls plays (non aggressive plays at that).
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:24 pm to
He's wasn't Haley's boss Miles was and position coaches are the ones that put you through drills and teach technique. You may have a DC step in during team practice and give you a tip or something like that but they never go and takeover drills or technique for a group they don't coach. Chavis has never fooled with dlineman the only group he teaches with are LBs.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:32 pm to
Said when he was coming out that he'd be a better NFL player than college.

Had all the tools and more.

So happy for the young man.

I also feel the same applies to Lewis Neal and Malachi Dupre.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:09 am to
I would not consider Danielle hunter "thin" during his college days. He was built really well
Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:15 am to
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I would not consider Danielle hunter "thin" during his college days. He was built really well




I'll friggin' say.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:40 am to
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Chavis did squat with this kid


Aside from completely shutting down his side of the field against the run and having over 70 tackles,13 tfl,1.5 sacks,6 pass defended,1 forced fumble and 1 fumble recovery , yeah he did nothing.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:42 am to
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Malachi Dupre.



Drops are on Chi and thats not going to cut it in the nfl.
Posted by burbank
Member since Oct 2010
596 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 12:57 am to
Not sure what Chavis did or didn't do at LSU as far as recruiting, but he recruits his arse off now.
On field results are still lacking in 2nd half if year still.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6065 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:13 am to
It can't be disputed that Hunter was productive his last year, he obviously was... what most take issue with is that you had NFL coaches publicly question the teaching abilities of coaches at LSU. Not once, but twice in a short period, with Chicago saying the same about Ego Ferguson.

Any way you look at it, it's quite an indictment of mainly Haley, and by extension to a degree, Chavis and Les.
Posted by SamuelClemens
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 1:21 am to
Athletes pick up fundamentals quickly in the NFL or they are 2 and done. Sounds like The Vikings coached him up.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48016 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:29 am to
Thin for a run stopping end is what I meant. Doesn't matter how gay ppl are for his body 250 and under standing 6"5 is a slim built DE.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 7:31 am
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:32 am to
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He's wasn't Haley's boss Miles was and position coaches are the ones that put you through drills and teach technique. You may have a DC step in during team practice and give you a tip or something


Chavis was a DLineman himself. If he didnt see proper skills being taught or used on the field, he easily could have addressed it. YEes, Miles would have ultimately made the call, but he liked Chavis a lot and would have respected that opinion.

As to the Aggie saying Chavis is recruiting his arse off now, I'll wait and see. Looks like he's recruiting a bunch of slight bodied LBs. He had those guys at LSU too, and Kwon Alexander and Debo Jones are 3x better in the NFL than they were at LSU ( not that they were bad, but his soft schemes lets offenses run in space constantly)
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48016 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:37 am to
Yes he likes smaller LBs that can fly. My point about him teaching techniques is if you played or ever been to a practice you know that coaches don't do that unless it's part of their job. Chavis helped with LBs along with game planning and running team D. That doesn't leave a lot of time to look over Haley's shoulder to critique the dline. Yes during team practice and film study he could mention stuff but I can tell you from experience if one assistant tries to tell another what to do your likely to see a fist fight.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 7:39 am
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66850 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 7:40 am to
I think he left when Chavis and Brick left.

He would have learned a lot under O.

But I still agree with his decision given the totality of the circumstances.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30388 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 8:12 am to
A DLine coach is gonna fist fight with the the DCoordinator over giving him suggestions? You realize they aren't assistants at the same pay grade right? Chavis had multiple years to identify flaws in technique and figure out why our defense was getting worse each year with better players.
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