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re: Dandy Don comments today....very frustrating
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:36 am to moneyg
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:36 am to moneyg
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I think LSU would have done more of that with more effectiveness had we been able to be just semi-effective with the running game.
If LSU had done more of that, our running game would have been more effective.
It wasn't rocket science. Sell out with run blitz and make BH heat you passing. Les wasn't willing to take that gamble, although I can't understand why he didn't have a contingency plan in place. Maybe he did and was just to stubborn to give up on what has been working all year.
Shotgun, roll out, whatever it takes to throw the ball down the field and take advantage of the mis-matches LSU had with our recs over their secondary. It worked a few times....but unfortunately, we tried to go to more intermediate to short passes...which aren't BH's strength. I guarantee you that if LSU would have made Bama pay down the field consistently that bame would have came out of the run blitzing and the running game would have picked up.
One would think with two former OC's, at least on staff, that LSU could have devised a game-plan that had a contingency in place for the I formation run game not working......You can bet that Miss State and Auburn will try and exploit Bama's weakness....(even though I know they don't have the run game of LSU).
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Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:40 am to Tigerinthehollow
Hollow, you see this:
And think that it means Miles is a fantastic coach unworthy of the criticism we give him, despite this:
And this:
Some of us see the two things, his success and his obvious weaknesses, and conclude that a coach with fewer weaknesses could have even greater success with LSUs resources.
I just don't think it makes sense to on one hand talk about Miles's many glaring weaknesses and on the other hand say that we couldn't do any better than Miles.
Certainly I understand that Miles also has strengths, but I find it hard to believe we can't find a coach who is a good recruiter and motivator while also being better at Miles's weaknesses.
More succinctly, great coaches don't usually suck at the stuff Miles sucks at.
quote:
LSU has never had more success than they have right now.
And think that it means Miles is a fantastic coach unworthy of the criticism we give him, despite this:
quote:
his stubbornness, and inability to adapt and attack a team's weaknesses as opposed to simply doing what we do best regardless of the other teams' strengths and weaknesses.
And this:
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. It was a pathetic job of game-planning with no contingencies
Some of us see the two things, his success and his obvious weaknesses, and conclude that a coach with fewer weaknesses could have even greater success with LSUs resources.
I just don't think it makes sense to on one hand talk about Miles's many glaring weaknesses and on the other hand say that we couldn't do any better than Miles.
Certainly I understand that Miles also has strengths, but I find it hard to believe we can't find a coach who is a good recruiter and motivator while also being better at Miles's weaknesses.
More succinctly, great coaches don't usually suck at the stuff Miles sucks at.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Part of being a mature adult is accepting people may think differently than yourself. There are legitimate arguments on both sides, but failure of either to see another point of view is what puts the tard in rantard on the Tiger Rant.
Don't disagree...but I'll always disagree that it's in the best interest of the program...the thing we all suggest we love...to criticize with poison darts when there's a better way to do it. That's been my point all along. Leave that kind of stuff for media guys with no love for the program.
That, and for many (we all know some) criticisms started long before there were any real things to criticize. I just have no interest in having a discussion today with a person that has been up Miles' arse since he came out in a small earpiece headset or lost an OT game in 2005 to TENN after two major hurricanes laid waste to our region.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:41 am to YouAre8Up
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Then why the negative topic that you posted?
Oh, so as a Miles fan, I'm not able to talk realistically? Despite what some say on here, I'm not in the camp that he does no wrong...and his stubbornness to even attempt to exploit another team's weakness is extremely frustrating.
However, I am a big fan of the success that this program has enjoyed over the last 10+ years, and unlike others, I don't take it for granted.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:42 am to Choupique19
Fear not, beefence will soon be here to put us in our places
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:46 am to Champagne
where were you jackasses for the 8 weeks prior? Maybe some people would respect the haters if they actually posted when the team was doing well, not lurk waiting for this team to lose to say Miles should be fired. Bunch of chickens shits is what yall are.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:47 am to dgnx6
quote:No reason to fire Les. He's a great coach against the other 11 teams we play.
where were you jackasses for the 8 weeks prior? Maybe some people would respect the haters if they actually posted when the team was doing well, not lurk waiting for this team to lose to say Miles should be fired. Bunch of chickens shits is what yall are.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:49 am to Tigerinthehollow
so much for the every 4 years championship theory
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 11:49 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:49 am to dgnx6
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here were you jackasses for the 8 weeks prior? Maybe some people would respect the haters if they actually posted when the team was doing well, not lurk waiting for this team to lose to say Miles should be fired. Bunch of chickens shits is what yall are.
Come on man. We were also hoping that Fournette would run over Alabama. That was wishful thinking on our part. Excusable for a fan. Not for a coach.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:50 am to jtran1988
quote:Still a lot of football left baw.
so much for the every 4 years championship theory
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:50 am to Tigerinthehollow
Bama adjusted and took away the deep ball. Dural is our only true deep threat we count on. For whatever reason we don't let Dupre become a dual deep threat for us. Take Dural out of it and we are forced to pass underneath. Their D dictated the terms, as all great D's do. We don't have a QB that can make all the passes with touch and Saban/Smart knew that. Miles' and Cam's tendency is to go back into the shell with play calling once a mistake his made in the passing game (see play calling post-INT).
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:50 am to ELVIS U
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HOWEVER, Nick Saban's record against Alabama at LSU was 4-1 (80%) and Les Miles record at LSU against Alabama is 6-6 (50%).
So it is clear that Tiger fans who are whining don't really care about winning, they only care about beating Bama.
Even that's a stat with no meat on it.
The 4-1 is correct...but what kind of BAMA teams were those? I'll tell you.
2000, 2001, 2003 and 2004 were BAMA teams which finished the season unranked. The only team that finished ranked was the 2002 team...which handed Saban and LSU a prison rape style beating to the tune of 31-0 in Tiger stadium, and ended with Dennis Fancione yelling at Nick Saban at midfield.
And Miles?
He's beaten BAMA 5 times. 3 of those wins were against Top 5 ranked BAMA teams, with one win coming on the road. He's only faced an unranked BAMA once, and he won that game in 2006. And yes...he's lost some too. He's lost to BAMA teams ranked: #1 in 2008, #3 in 2009, #2 in 2012, #1 in 2012, #1 in 2013, #4 in 2014 and #7 (at the time) in 2015.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 11:52 am to Tigerinthehollow
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I'm not in the camp that he does no wrong
Literally no one is. The notion that there is any fan that posts on this site that prefers Les Miles over LSU is more internet nonsense used to avoid reasonable discussion.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:00 pm to sjmabry
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Should have come out in 3 wides and single back...
Exactly. I AM SO SICK OF THE 2 back set with one WR on the freaking field. That has to be my hated play cal of all time.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:00 pm to GeauxTigerTM
So Les is ok with losing just as long as it is close.
It is very sad that Les is treating close losses as if they were victories. Has he really stooped to lowly moral victory tactic.
It is very sad that Les is treating close losses as if they were victories. Has he really stooped to lowly moral victory tactic.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:16 pm to TNTigerman
2016 close game but 6 in a row with the same philosophy so no cigars.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:17 pm to sjmabry
Les thinks that. Talent is nothing without proper development.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:19 pm to Tigerinthehollow
he will never ever ever change. Book it. 2008 scared the shite out of him and the best damn phychologist won't cure him. Unless he has a senior qb, he won't trust them. Didn't trust Jefferson or Lee till they were SR. Didn't trust Jennings. Doesn't trust Harris. Just accept it.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:21 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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When asked about losing five in a row and if he has thought about adapting the offense to become more effective against Alabama......Les replied that we have not been in a position to win only twice in the five games....so why change our scheme because we weren't effective only twice.
"Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Albert Einstein
Miles is clearly no Einstein.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:24 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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but it's even more frustrating that Les still doesn't believe that his strategy is flawed.....it's unbelievable....and I'm a Miles fan.
This was clear with the Jefferson/Lee ordeal. Les will have to retire or be fired, or LSU will never see another offense. It will always predominantly be the I-Formation and not utilizing the speed and skill of the personnel and the space the field provides.
To me, its like saying 1 + 1 = 3.
We could have
Fournette in the backfield
4 of a combo of
Quinn
Tyron Johnson
Malachi Dupre
Travin Dural
John Diarse
All out wide at once, with DeSean Smith out there. Not a team in college football can touch that setup. Not a single team in college football. Not even Alabama can put such a group of guys on the field at one time. LSU runs the worst possible offense for that group.
This post was edited on 11/10/15 at 12:27 pm
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