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D-line, O-line, LB, QB for college football championships
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:35 pm
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:35 pm
I know this has been said before, but after watching Alabama throttle Michigan State, it needs to be said again.
You can have all the great/very good RBs, DBs, WRs, and TE/FBs you want, but until you have great/very good DL, OL, LBs, and QB you will not win championships. The key is to control the line of scrimmage on both sides and move the chains consistently on offense.
Just look at the players in those positions in 2003 and 2007 compared with the last few years, and you will see the difference.
LSU had two of its top 10 all-time WRs in 2012/2013
LSU had two of its top 5 DBs ever in 2010.
LSU had one of its top 5/10 RBs in 2013 and its best RB ever in 2014/2015.
No championships of any kind in any of those seasons.
The DL, OL, and QB have to get better or the results will not change against the top teams.
You can have all the great/very good RBs, DBs, WRs, and TE/FBs you want, but until you have great/very good DL, OL, LBs, and QB you will not win championships. The key is to control the line of scrimmage on both sides and move the chains consistently on offense.
Just look at the players in those positions in 2003 and 2007 compared with the last few years, and you will see the difference.
LSU had two of its top 10 all-time WRs in 2012/2013
LSU had two of its top 5 DBs ever in 2010.
LSU had one of its top 5/10 RBs in 2013 and its best RB ever in 2014/2015.
No championships of any kind in any of those seasons.
The DL, OL, and QB have to get better or the results will not change against the top teams.
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Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:44 pm to NorthEndZone
I know winning has a lot to do w/ talent levels, but it is especially true of Miles. It is almost impossible for him to win unless he out talents the other team.
Posted on 12/31/15 at 11:50 pm to NorthEndZone
Didn't Alabama have a Heisman RB this year and a Biletnikoff WR last year? Or am I thinking of a different team?
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:17 am to chilge1
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Didn't Alabama have a Heisman RB this year and a Biletnikoff WR last year? Or am I thinking of a different team?
Yep, but that was in addition to having great front 7 and QB play. Even Jake Coker has gotten better throughout the year.
You're not gonna do shite with just an award winning WR, ask Baylor. You're not going to do shite with just an award winning RB, ask Wisconsin with Dayne.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 1:50 am to Datbayoubengal
Yeah they have a heisman at RB. Our RB is better and I want ours. I also like our Wr's. Beyond that they own every other position. Meaning they far surpass all other positions. Not saying our guys won't be better in the future. All I have to go on is this year.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 3:24 am to NorthEndZone
Until we have a passing game (AND USE IT), we'll be watching the playoffs from the sidelines. PERIOD.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 3:29 am to km
DBs are really important. Otherwise, I agree with you.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 4:10 am to stuntman
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know winning has a lot to do w/ talent levels, but it is especially true of Miles. It is almost impossible for him to win unless he out talents the other team.
That's why he's beat Saban, Tressel, Spurier, Chizik, Coker, Stoops, Fulmer, Meyer.. Might be missing some, but I highly doubt those guys were void of fricking talent.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 5:09 am to stuntman
Get a clue Einstein. You HAVE to have more talent to win 99% of the time.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 5:18 am to NorthEndZone
Basically, every position is important.
If you're discounting a Heisman trophy-winning RB and Calvin Ridley's contributions to Bama's success, you're an ignoramus. It's a team game, and every player on the field is important.
If you're discounting a Heisman trophy-winning RB and Calvin Ridley's contributions to Bama's success, you're an ignoramus. It's a team game, and every player on the field is important.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 5:57 am to chilge1
So are you saying Bama had a bad front 7 and O Line the last 2 years because that was the point.
You win if you can control the line on both sides of the ball.
You win if you can control the line on both sides of the ball.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 7:46 am to NorthEndZone
Get the 3-deep Interior DT's up as high as possible, especially the starters, and that is the majority of the issue on the D side of the ball. Of course the QB position needs considerable upgrade.
This post was edited on 1/1/16 at 7:47 am
Posted on 1/1/16 at 7:48 am to NorthEndZone
Takes some luck too. If Arkansas doesn't have a 25 yard backwards pass miracle, Alabama isn't playing last night.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 8:14 am to NorthEndZone
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You can have all the great/very good RBs, DBs, WRs, and TE/FBs you want, but until you have great/very good DL, OL, LBs, and QB you will not win championships
w/o question. that's why our recruiting rankings have been faulty.
and by the way, msu pretty well shut out bama's running game yesterday (till late) and bama still killed them on the scoreboard. the difference was pass blocking and qb play. they found the way to win as opposed to trying the same thing over and over and over.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 8:46 am to dgnx6
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That's why we beat Saban,
LOL
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:01 am to NorthEndZone
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The DL, OL, and QB have to get better or the results will not change against the top teams.
So obvious, so true. We pull in Top 5 classes, but so many of the top stars are NOT the linemen we need to compete against Bama--and if we can't match up against them, we're always a runner up.
Maybe it sucks to play in the division with the best program in college football, but that's the reality.
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:05 am to chilge1
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Didn't Alabama have a Heisman RB
RB's don't win Heisman's unless they have a solid o-line run blocking for them...
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:11 am to NorthEndZone
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The DL, OL, and QB have to get better or the results will not change against the top teams.
So basically we have to excel at 14 of the 22 positions on the field...
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:17 am to SBC
You can't say that. Luck only applies to LSU, remember this is the rant
Posted on 1/1/16 at 9:17 am to NorthEndZone
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I know this has been said before
then why in the hell would you continue?
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