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re: CPM, welcome to my world.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:13 pm to Maximus
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:13 pm to Maximus
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I must've dreamed the audible part up since it doesn't fit into your argument anymore.
I'm not making an argument, simply pointing out a stat...the audible was well documented after the game, although I was mistaken, it was on the next to last drive, not the last. I don't mind a QB checking out of a bad play at all...
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Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:14 pm to Mayhawman
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So, say this yr tanked,
this year is not tanked. It is far from tanked.
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maybe you're looking at another, maybe even a couple, to break out.
why would we need a couple of years to break out of it?
This is one of the dumbest posts I have ever read on the rant. PM has bought far more time than Les Miles has either way because of what he brought this program from.
The fact is, PM is too good of a coach for us to have 2 "tanked" seasons in a row. Right now he stands at 0 coming off a National Championship
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:15 pm to ForeLSU
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.the audible was well documented after the game
can you provide said documents?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:20 pm to TigerBait1127
I don't have time to dissect each quote, so here goes: the fact that you place the blame of anything that goes wrong with the program on Miles because he has the "catch all" title of head coach is unfair. While everything is ultimately his decision, it's near-impossible to supervise every detail of the team simultaneously. That's why he has paid assistants to begin with.
The last two years with admittedly shitty by our standards, but by grouping the last two years together, the argument is lost that 2009 was considerably less so than 2008. Finally, Florida. As I said, that was the one game that we had no business winning. However to say that we were thoroughly dominated is
a mistake. Lastly, Florida wasn't better than their program usually is.. the SEC was just a pretty partisan division last year. Including the Spurrier years, I would need more than my two hands to count the teams that were better.
Finally, Georgia was a decent team that beat the snot out of GT whether you want to make it legitimate or not, Ole Miss had yards but save for a trick play, put up only 18 points, typical of a Chavis defense.
The last two years with admittedly shitty by our standards, but by grouping the last two years together, the argument is lost that 2009 was considerably less so than 2008. Finally, Florida. As I said, that was the one game that we had no business winning. However to say that we were thoroughly dominated is
a mistake. Lastly, Florida wasn't better than their program usually is.. the SEC was just a pretty partisan division last year. Including the Spurrier years, I would need more than my two hands to count the teams that were better.
Finally, Georgia was a decent team that beat the snot out of GT whether you want to make it legitimate or not, Ole Miss had yards but save for a trick play, put up only 18 points, typical of a Chavis defense.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:21 pm to TigerBait1127
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can you provide said documents?
don't know, it's really not relevant enough to the point to spend the time to dig through the articles and interviews.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:25 pm to TigerBait1127
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So, say this yr tanked,
Relative. Anything less than SECC seems to be "tanked" on here. There are ebbs in talent that are beyond control, early drafts, the like.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:26 pm to chilge1
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the fact that you place the blame of anything that goes wrong with the program on Miles because he has the "catch all" title of head coach is unfair.
bullshite. He gets paid the big money to take the blame. He's considered this "manager" type coach but he can't take flack for his lack of management?
Meyer has offense, Saban has defense, Miles has???????
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However to say that we were thoroughly dominated is
a mistake.
they kicked our arse and controlled the game from beginning to end, so I disagree.
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. Lastly, Florida wasn't better than their program usually is..
they lost 1 football game last year. They've won 3 NC titles, with all 3 having a loss during the season. It was a good season by UF, they just didn't win against Bama
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Georgia was a decent team that beat the snot out of GT whether you want to make it legitimate or not,
they were 6-5 going into the GT game. Is that a good record. Decent=/= good. An 8-5 team is not a good team.
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Ole Miss had yards but save for a trick play, put up only 18 points, typical of a Chavis defense.
they still may have scored on that drive. The play was successful because of they were running on us up and down the field.
Save for our blocked field goal and an onside kick...
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:27 pm to Mayhawman
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Relative. Anything less than SECC seems to be "tanked" on here. There are ebbs in talent that are beyond control, early drafts, the like.
baseball is about regionals, super regionals and omaha. If we host a regional, we had a good year. If we make it to omaha, we had a great year.
When PM came here, we weren't even a regional team. When Les came here, we were 1 year removed from a National Championship
This post was edited on 5/2/10 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:27 pm to chilge1
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the fact that you place the blame of anything that goes wrong with the program on Miles because he has the "catch all" title of head coach is unfair. While everything is ultimately his decision, it's near-impossible to supervise every detail of the team simultaneously.
You said it yourself that "everything is ultimately his decision." So why would you NOT blame him for not doing as well as hoped, wanted, expected, etc.
If a corporation files for bankruptcy after the president signed off on a decision that put them in that situation, well then who are you going to blame? The mother fricking president.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:42 pm to TigerBait1127
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you think Les would learn from his mistake in the Auburn game but then Penn State happened. We come back in the game through the air and Les decides to kill a drive by running the ball again
The difference is that when we played Penn State, we were protecting a lead. Did Miles/Crowton get too conservative on offense on our last full drive? It certainly looks that way but it's not as if he was trying to pound a square peg through a circle hole. It was an effort to eat clock.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:45 pm to TigerBait1127
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you think Les would learn from his mistake in the Auburn game but then Penn State happened. We come back in the game through the air and Les decides to kill a drive by running the ball again
The difference is that when we played Penn State, we were protecting a lead. Did Miles/Crowton get too conservative on offense on our last full drive? It certainly looks that way but it's not as if he was trying to pound a square peg through a circle hole. It was an effort to eat clock.
Posted on 5/2/10 at 10:55 pm to LSU=Champions
So if everything is ultimately his decision then, and he's responsible for everything that happens within the program, why is he never given credit for the accolades of 2005-2007?
Posted on 5/2/10 at 11:00 pm to TigerBait1127
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guy getting paid 4 million not to frick up one of my own.
Miles gets paid what he gets paid because he is a NC coach and that's the going rate. Get over it.
Sometime you win and sometimes you lose. When you are going home a winner almost 80% of the time, you should be happy. If you can't be, stop going or seek psychological help for your problems.
Posted on 5/3/10 at 1:52 am to Tigerdandy
People who start threads like this are just make themselves look just as dumb as the people they are trying to call out. Comparing football to baseball in terms of coaching is flat out dumb. Plus CLM has shown over the last few years that he cannot mangage the clock well in games, constantly runs plays that have shown they don't work(option short side), and isn't developing players at the rate of top SEC coaches. CPM's team isn't getting timely hits and is struggling pitching wise, which was a given going into the season. All stuff out of his control. That said comparing both their coaches to their respective sport. Coach Paul Mainerri is a hell of a baseball coach who is going through a normal baseball skid. Coach Les Miles is a mediocre at best football coach who has shown over the last 2 years his unability to make changes and consistantly make the same mistakes, over and over and over.
This post was edited on 5/3/10 at 2:06 am
Posted on 5/3/10 at 9:52 am to TigerBait1127
quote:His 51 wins over 5 seasons would disagree with you.
I was on the Les Miles bandwagon until this past season. The guy can't coach
quote:FIFY
the rantards on tiger droppings have zero respect for him,
quote:Unless you are inside of the LSU program you have no idea what he "brings to the table". For a person who has never seen a practice, players meeting or coaches meeting to make a statement like that as fact shows that you are blinded by your bais against Miles.
brings nothing to the table besides recruiting
Posted on 5/3/10 at 5:12 pm to XbengalTiger
i don't really give a frick what he did with Saban's players. He blew it in 2006 and tried to blow it in 2007.
Stupidity at its finest!
Stupidity at its finest!
Posted on 5/3/10 at 6:20 pm to geauxtigers2
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Coach Les Miles is a mediocre at best football coach
That must be why he has more wins in 5 yrs than any coach ever before, he has more top 5 teams in a row than any coach in LSU history, he is the 1st coach to average 10 wins a yr, he is 4-1 in bowl games, 2-0 in BCS games, and 1-0 in national title games.
You are a clueless kid or dumb as dirt. Take your choice.
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