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Concerning our receivers getting separation...

Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted by tonydtiger
Central Mississippi
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:01 pm
Coming from an old lineman, is this something that can be coached into our receivers or is this a talent thing? My thinking is this is something they have to develop as they are not used to a DB being able to hang with them like they can at this level. Thought I would get some of the Rant coaches to help me out here!
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:02 pm to
Can’t get separation when you get held every time you go out for a pass.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:03 pm to
I think it’s partially a strength thing, but our receivers were being held quite a bit
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:12 pm to
Auburn's DBs had some of the worst technique I've ever seen. Not just holding, but bear hugging on some occasions.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18147 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:14 pm to
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Can’t get separation when you get held every time you go out for a pass.
for all 3 teams we've played???
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7952 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:15 pm to
What is sad is that the Auburn DBs has been doing this same shite for over a decade. They do that crap at home because 9 out of 10 times they know they can get away with it.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:18 pm to
We had open guys vs Miami all day.

It was a lackluster effort by everyone vs SLU.

Auburn DBs held everywhere.
Posted by vince vega
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2014
660 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:35 pm to
I'd like to see them add in more back shoulder stuff

Very hard to cover the back shoulder throw to big tall receivers outside the numbers
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12008 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:55 pm to
It must have been instinctive for Josh Reed. He was a running back but could always get open and make the first man miss then drag the next one five yards before went down.
It can be learned. Our guys have little experience of actual game time, except No 7. How many game opportunities have they had in their careers. Jefferson seems to be the most efficient because he and Burrow spent a lot of off season time practicing.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 4:01 pm to
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We had open guys vs Miami all day. It was a lackluster effort by everyone vs SLU. Auburn DBs held everywhere.


I'd add that the route tree has been to deep. Need shorten the route tree and add more combo routes. More Hi / low routes and crossing routes, Defense will be forced to roll the coverage. If they don't the DB in man will lose coverage. Reason is too may teams man up on LSU bc of bad passing game.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 4:02 pm
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18147 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 3:33 pm to
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What is sad is that the Auburn DBs has been doing this same shite for over a decade. They do that crap at home because 9 out of 10 times they know they can get away with it.
you do realize that the home team doesn't get to select their own referees, right???
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 3:38 pm to
Yeah like everyone has said, Auburns DBs were holding everywhere

And, we also used our bigger WRs vs them. Harder to get separation at the LOS when you’re 6’5, 220lbs or bigger like Sullivan and Anderson.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 3:39 pm to
hopefully the light bulb has gone off for dee anderson. would love to see him be one of our top guys.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 3:42 pm to
Same here

He’s so talented and always seems to make plays when he gets an opportunity.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12940 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 3:55 pm to
LOL, as an old lineman myself I've always saw it as the same thing as an OT facing a quick DE, just over a much narrower front.

The first move by both probably decides the final result.

Much technique involved, which shoulder are they over, head-over, first step, etc.

Basically, much like a DE, if that WR gets the position on the DB, he's off and running (barring holding). If that first step gets you on the hip, or the DB turned at the wrong angle- you won.

For the DB, if you can stay square and impede- you won. If he's hand fighting and the feet aren't going anywhere- you won.

Remember, contact is allowed as long as A) in front of receiver and B) not in air.

So your separation in college has to be pretty good, and especially where they can't get to your front otherwise they just keep jamming you. That's why staying square is so important.

All this screams technique with strength only enhancing the effectiveness of the technique.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4339 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:19 pm to
The Referrees at Auburn have been especially awful each time I go there. About 10 times in the last 30 years. Officiating at Auburn is worse than the officiating in Tuscaloosa. You have to beat Bama by two touchdowns in Tuscaloosa to actually win on a last second field goal. Way too many homer calls in T Town.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:42 pm to
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you do realize that the home team doesn't get to select their own referees, right?


This has never mattered.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43894 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:44 pm to
Yeah bro. Auburn’s Dbs looked bad.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:45 pm to
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sheek






How ya been bud????

Good to see you here......
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162238 posts
Posted on 9/18/18 at 5:45 pm to
Jefferson seems to get a lot of separation.
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