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re: College Football Live says LSU won't even win SEC West this year.

Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:05 pm to
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They return the same number of defensive starters we do.



Bama lost 7 starters on D: Hightower, Chapman, Upshaw, Harris, Kirkpatrick, Barron and Menzie.

We lost: Claiborne, Brockers, Baker, Adams & Taylor.

I don't really count Hatcher and Francois because those guys were not on the field half the time. Mingo was a part-time starter as well over Adams.

..and 5 of the losses by Alabama on D were huge playmakers for them.

I only consider Claiborne and Brockers as big losses for our D.


This post was edited on 5/22/12 at 4:08 pm
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:06 pm to
Guess we shouldn't play
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27699 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:12 pm to
who cares what people think. its May people.
all that matters is next January and what our record is.

do they have Clemson in the top 10 like they do every year?
Posted by Cincinnati Bowtie
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Member since May 2008
11951 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:13 pm to
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The difference this year is we'll be able to score


Lord I hope so, but we couldn't block them last year and they'll still be awfully good at every position.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:17 pm to
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Sounds like an opinion


didn't some on college game day say basically the same thing last year?
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:22 pm to
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Who is they?


Ed Cunnimham gave that prediction on CFL.
Posted by FamousAmos
Member since Feb 2010
3276 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:25 pm to
Meh. I'd rather trust the magazines. At least they conduct a legitimate analysis of every team.
Posted by Enfuego
Uptown
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:43 pm to
You guys are rediculous.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50767 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 4:51 pm to
Just Ed Cunningham's opinion what's wrong with that
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7276 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:03 pm to
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Last time I checked AJ Mcarron is still their quarterback and he is nothing more than and average QB.

I would have killed to have an AJ McCarron at QB last year.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:03 pm to
LSU receivers > Alabama receivers. Kenny Bell has done ABSOLUTELY nothing thus far in his career.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:06 pm to
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I would have killed to have an AJ McCarron at QB last year.


Go with Clint Moseley, he had a better yards per attempt average against LSU than chesttat.
This post was edited on 5/22/12 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10395 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:08 pm to
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Bama lost 7 starters on D: Hightower, Chapman, Upshaw, Harris, Kirkpatrick, Barron and Menzie.

We lost: Claiborne, Brockers, Baker, Adams & Taylor.

I don't really count Hatcher and Francois because those guys were not on the field half the time. Mingo was a part-time starter as well over Adams.

..and 5 of the losses by Alabama on D were huge playmakers for them.

I only consider Claiborne and Brockers as big losses for our D.
Straight rationalization, homie.

By your logic, Menzie and Harris shouldn't count as lost starters for Bama either because their backups played just as much as they did. Harris only started five games, and Menzie played mostly nickel. So it's back to five against five.

Mingo was not a part-time starter. He was a situational pass rusher. Starting on third down isn't starting.

If you want to say they lose more "playmakers", that's fine, but that's not what you originally said that I was responding to. You're changing the terms of the discussion. Even so, Ron Brooks was a bigger "playmaker" than Chapman, Harris or Menzie; and he wasn't even a starter for us.

I also consider Taylor a big loss.
This post was edited on 5/22/12 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Child of the Missip
Member since May 2012
1522 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:11 pm to
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I'm a bit skeptical of this conclusion. They lost their best offensive player: Trent Richardson. He was the focal point of their entire offensive scheme. Why would Alabama improve by losing their biggest threat?

Didn't they also lose some o-linemen?

And that's a fact Jack
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:12 pm to
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Mingo was not a part-time starter. He was a situational pass rusher. Starting on third down isn't starting.


So what? Was anyone on Alabama's second string as productive as Mingo? Anyone?

What are you trying to prove?
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25097 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:12 pm to
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Bama lost 7 starters on D: Hightower, Chapman, Upshaw, Harris, Kirkpatrick, Barron and Menzie.


Bama fans that think you lose those guys and don't drop off at all, will be in for a rude awakening. Hell in 2010 when they lost a lot less (Dareus and some corners) they got popped by AU, LSU, and USCe. I think they will have a good defense that won't be near as good as last year. It could bite them as it did in 2010.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:13 pm to
I think LSU will miss Brandon Taylor a ton. Why shouldn't Alabama feel the same way about Barron?
Posted by bishop
Maiden, North Carolina
Member since Jun 2004
2371 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:19 pm to
Why did they rank LSU above Bama is they thought that?

ESPN is just trying to make everyone mad
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:20 pm to
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Why did they rank LSU above Bama is they thought that?

ESPN is just trying to make everyone mad





They give Skip Bayliss a show every morning/afternoon with screaming A smith. Of course that's what they're doing.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127398 posts
Posted on 5/22/12 at 5:22 pm to
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didn't some on college game day say basically the same thing last year?




Herbie had Bama winning the West last summer.
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