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re: Coach Johnson's Assistant Coaches?
Posted on 2/13/11 at 10:45 am to Bubba Hotep
Posted on 2/13/11 at 10:45 am to Bubba Hotep
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He def. won't be fired this year, so these threads are kind of meaningless.
absolutely...people can bitch all they want, but he's definitely coaching this team next year.
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Posted on 2/13/11 at 11:45 am to Bubba Hotep
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I think even his most ardent supporters will agree that he should be gone next year without some major improvement.
This is my stance, and I have been an ardent supporter.
I'm not sure I can maintain that stance after yesterday's loss.
That was our second worse loss of the season after the blowout at home versus Ole Miss.
I was hoping we were past that point. If we don't win a few more games this season, while still making stupid mistakes and getting blown out by average teams, I think he should be given an ultimatum:
Make it to the NCAA Tournament, or find a new job.
I originally thought an NIT berth, a top 20 2012 recruiting class, and obvious improvement in our style of play would suffice as the standard.
We should beat Auburn at home. I think we should beat MSU on the road with the state of their program in absolute disarray. We should also play competitively against Bama, UF, and Vandy at home, which means we should not lose by 25 points and never be in the game.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 11:51 am to SneauxTiger
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I admit to not knowing much about Coach Johnson's assistants, but could the lack of improvement of the inside game be a shortcoming of the one-on-one coaching of the assistants? Seems like the same shortcomings and mistakes under the basket continue game after game. LSU seems to live and die by the outside game. Talent aside, there should be signs of improvement, don't ya'll think?
Lack of improvement probably has a lot to do with assistant coaches.ULL has less talent than last year but one can see constant improvement from game to game.Marlin has excellent assistants in Neil Hardin, Nikita Johnson and Kevin Johnson.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 11:54 am to Bubba Hotep
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I think even his most ardent supporters will agree that he should be gone next year without some major improvement.
He def. won't be fired this year, so these threads are kind of meaningless.
This.
I questioned the hire because I would have rather gotten a younger coach more plugged into the regional recruiting scene.
But Trent won me over with his character and integrity and I became an ardent supporter.
Now I'm in the significant improvement next year or I won't quibble at all if a change is made category.
He's made his bed with poor recruiting and evaluations his first two years that have put him two years behind.
And because of that and the number of kids he's put on scholarship that can't play at this level his margin for error is very minimal.
Again, Hamilton, Isaac and O'Bryant have to all be able to play at this level right away, Stringer has to improve,and we can't have any injuries to those 3 or Derenbecker or Turner. Cause there's really nothing behind those guys.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 11:55 am to The Mick
Well, I remember seeing Dale Brown working directly with Shaquille on developing his inside game. He would make Shaq shoot over a broom he would raise near the rim. He would also make him work on getting to the rim and finishing strong from the left as well as the right. In other words, it's no excuse.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 11:59 am to Tiger Ugly
If he doesn't go out right now and sign a juco point guard that can step in and play right away, I will be disappointed. I am hopeful that our frontcourt woes can be solved with incoming recruits, I like our youth at the swing positions, but point guard play will be their downfall, I am afraid.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 12:06 pm to Bubba Hotep
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If he doesn't go out right now and sign a juco point guard that can step in and play right away, I will be disappointed.
Me too Bubba. If he insists on running the offense he's running the effectiveness of the wings will be minimized significantly because Stringer doesn't handle the ball well enough to execute it.
However, I've been told we're waiting on the St. Aug kid at point.
I hope that's not the case or he'll seal his fate next year.
Or Stringer will have to work his tail off to improve his ball handling exponentially. That's up to him to put that work in.
Trent has said he's still recruiting though. So we'll see.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 12:09 pm to Bubba Hotep
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If he doesn't go out right now and sign a juco point guard that can step in and play right away, I will be disappointed. I am hopeful that our frontcourt woes can be solved with incoming recruits, I like our youth at the swing positions, but point guard play will be their downfall, I am afraid.
100% agree, and I'm not sure we can sign a point guard in the spring who will be the solution to our point guard problems. Spring signees are rarely impact players; they are stopgap signees who provide depth. We don't need depth at point guard. We need someone talented enough to step in and start.
Our swing players would be that much better if we had an SEC-caliber point guard. Derenbecker would be deadly as a kick-out shooter. Malcolm White would even be a pretty good player if we had a point guard who could penetrate the lane and throw lobs to him.
I was hoping Stringer would develop into that point guard, but it's becoming painfully obvious that at heart, he's a 5'8-5'9 shooting guard with a quick trigger.
Bass is a jump shot away from being a really good point guard, but opposing defense will never play him honestly, which negates his tremendous speed, ballhandling ability, and court vision.
Here's to hoping we can find that guy, because I like the direction of our program in every other aspect. We just have a major point guard problem that I don't believe we can fix in time to justify supporting Trent.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 12:12 pm to Tiger Ugly
Well considering that Javon Felix is a 2012 signee, a juco guy signed now would only overlap him by 1 year. I don't think Felix is an elite PG anyway. Definitely a legit recruit, just not a guy to step in from day 1.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 12:18 pm to tuptiger
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and I'm not sure we can sign a point guard in the spring who will be the solution to our point guard problems.
Wasn't Thornton a spring signee? Not quite sure but I thought he was.
JUCO's are always a role of the dice for obvious reasons. But desparate times call for desparate measures.
What worries me is that Trent keeps running a base offense that starts with Stringer having to run off a high ball screen...a set he's proven time and again he cannot execute.
Yet Trent must somehow think he can because he won't get away from it. And that worries me because it would lead me to believe he may think his need for any late signee will be at a position other than point.
Hell, even then, what if Stringer gets hurt? We gonna go with Bass or Populist at point?
Gotta get a point now!
Posted on 2/13/11 at 12:22 pm to Tiger Ugly
Yes, Thornton was a spring signee.
There are players out there. They just need to find them.
There are players out there. They just need to find them.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 1:29 pm to Bubba Hotep
I have to think that there are several juco guys in the region more capable of running the point than stringer, bass or populist. Hell I think Derenbecker has looked better at the point than stringer at times!
Posted on 2/13/11 at 1:37 pm to tuptiger
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Malcolm White would even be a pretty good player if we had a point guard who could penetrate the lane and throw lobs to him.
You have to catch lobs, too, though.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 3:15 pm to Jester
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You have to catch lobs, too, though.
Exactly Jester. And even the the obligatory dribbles that he usually loses the ball on.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 3:35 pm to Tiger Ugly
White, at this point, is a soft Brad Bridgewater. Brad may have had better hands and definitely had more heart.
Posted on 2/13/11 at 3:38 pm to Jester
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White, at this point, is a soft Brad Bridgewater
Perfect analogy. Brad at least had some value cause he could set a good screen and when he doubled-down on that low post double no one locked it in better.
White doesn't screen as well and since Trent never doubles the post we'll never know if he can do that.
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