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re: CLM "I Could not get the players motivated to play Furman"

Posted on 11/5/13 at 9:54 am to
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79071 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 9:54 am to
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Then you are obviously aren't too bright either


So you slam the OP yet you speak gibberish yourself?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4720 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 9:56 am to
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I think that's one way Saban distinguishes himself. His face turns red and he screams on the sidelines even late in the 4th with his team up big. Most of us think of him as an arse for it but he gets his guy's attention.


you must not have been around for florida in 2003. He couldn't get them motivated to play FLORIDA.

geeze, you people have made this guy larger than life in your head. he does make mistakes, he does have a lot of flaws. Unfortunately, you guys choose not to see any.

i guess lsu was motivated to play u.a.b. when they lost under saban? u.l.m. at bama?
This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 9:58 am
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29136 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 9:57 am to
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so when the players do well, do you say "wow what great coaching?" bc i'm betting you don't.


the hc is ultimately held accountable for the product on the field, good or bad. if coaching doesn't have much to do with how the team looks then LSU and CFB as a whole is seriously misusing its money.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:15 am to
I'm not happy about LSU playing teams like Furman, but as others have pointed out, that's how business is done these days in college football. One thing I do however, is to not count these type of games–results, stats, everything–in assessing a team. The only results and stats I care about are the ones against conference opponents and OOC opponents of reasonable quality (such as TCU, Oregon, West Virginia, North Carolina, Clemson and other such teams the Tigers have played in recent years). In my mind, this gives a more representative picture of a team's true strength.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28339 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:19 am to
As a season ticket holder I hate that I have to pay so much for games such as Furman, (directional school) State, etc. However, I also understand that this is part of college football. In CFB, the teams that play for the NC are subjectively selected. One, at most two losses generally exclude a team from playing for a NC (we all know the exception). With conference games being so tough, especially in the SEC, it doesn't behove BCS schools to schedule multiple difficult OOC games. The chances of a "season ending" loss are much greater, and the reward is not nearly worth the risk.

Also, it's human nature for a team like LSU to not be fired up for a team like Furman. As a fan, were you fired up for that game? I'm not going to put the blame solely on the coach for not having his team fired up, the players have to take some accountability as well.

The only way to see better OOC games is to expand the playoffs enough to where 1-2 losses doesn't kill a teams chance to play for a NC. Plus, it would make SOS even more important for the selection committee (ala college basketball). Teams would be more willing to schedule marquee OOC games to boost their SOS.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83557 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:21 am to
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My opinion is that we should be up 21-0 or so by the end of the first quarter ... up by at least 21 or more at the half ... and then use the rest of the game to play substitutes, get them experience, avoid injuries to starters, etc.


It's just human nature.

Did you ever play sports? If you did, did you get all pumped up for while playing crappy teams? It has nothing to do with coaching. It's just human nature.
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
3782 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:24 am to
Being fueled by emotion one week and playing flat the next is SOP for this team...which is why, win or lose on Sat, I think A&M runs right by LSU on the 23rd (which really sucks for me, as I'll be at the game).
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:36 am to
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Welcome to Lesville.


You guys act like we never lost before les came here. Lsu plays down to their opponent. They've been doing it my whole life. The diff is les isn't losing to the shite schools. That's saban, Uab, ulm. But no he gets his teams up. Give me a break.

But let's keep blindly hating on miles.
This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 10:41 am
Posted by Brbengal
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2004
1368 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:39 am to
That was our 9th consecutive game.
Thank goodness it was Furman.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10456 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:43 am to
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"I have had no problem getting the team motivated to play Alabama-I could not get the team motivated to play Furman, but I guarantee you that is not a problem this week".


And thus lies one of Les' problems. This team seems to only focus and get up for 2-3 games a year, and sometimes only Bama outside of the 2011 season. That's what cost them against Ole Miss, and is an issue in Miles' coaching ability.

I know most will say "Who would be able to get them up for Furman?", but the fact remains that this is a bad sign.
Posted by Douboy
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
4332 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:50 am to
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With conference games being so tough, especially in the SEC, it doesn't behove BCS schools to schedule multiple difficult OOC games.


Agreed, but there has to be some kind of middle ground. Furman is a glorified high school.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 10:57 am to
He couldn't get them motivated to play Ole Miss either.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68593 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:03 am to
And Saban got his team motivated to beat a Jordan Jefferson led team in the 2011 regular season. But the punt hit the wire. Lol.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:06 am to
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Being fueled by emotion one week and playing flat the next is SOP for this team...which is why, win or lose on Sat, I think A&M runs right by LSU on the 23rd (which really sucks for me, as I'll be at the game).


I disagree somewhat. I think if we lose, the team and probably the coaches quit and we lose to aTm and quite possibly Arkansas.

If we win, we will be inspired and play lights out against aTm, win big vs aTm, then come out the last game of the season flat, uninspired and lose to the worst Arkansas team in a decade.

That is CLASSIC Les.
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:38 am to
Check out the Gumps schedule the last couple of years.
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:40 am to
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Apparently they weren't motivated to play Ole Miss, either. If you can't get motivated to play one of your most historic, most hated, SECW rivals, then there's a problem.



Yep... no motivation in them to play Ole Miss..
so besides the bad play, our over paid coaches can not motivate players.


not hard to motivate for Al, it does not take a $ 4MM coach for that

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Also, it's human nature for a team like LSU to not be fired up for a team like Furman. As a fan, were you fired up for that game? I'm not going to put the blame solely on the coach for not having his team fired up, the players have to take some accountability as well.


I do not expect them to get as high for Furman as AL, that's human...but I do expect motivation..and why not try to schedule an in-state schools where the money would stay in Louisiana
This post was edited on 11/5/13 at 11:45 am
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65919 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:44 am to
why are you complaining about the schedule?

LSU did win, and won big correct? even unmotivated did they not set a record for yards?? and they virtually shut out furman in the 2nd half.. what's the issue. we already had to play florida and georgia out the east to go along with the sec brutal schedule.. i think we deserve and easy win.. especially not having a bye.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:50 am to
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Yep... no motivation in them to play Ole Miss..
so besides the bad play, our over paid coaches can not motivate players.


not hard to motivate for Al, it does not take a $ 4MM coach for that


4mm and he cant even do his job consistently.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202871 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:51 am to
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CLM "I Could not get the players motivated to play Furman"


What about Ole Miss?????
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57305 posts
Posted on 11/5/13 at 11:56 am to
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What about Ole Miss?????


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