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re: CLM benefited for 11 years from a side of the ball he had nothing to do with
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:19 am to vjm41
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:19 am to vjm41
quote:. What I've always thought too. Perriloux , Lee in 2008 ruined any chance of that coming back. Pretty sad
If Miles would have left Crowton alone like in 07 and kept the pistol and some imagination going on with the offense it would have been a great run.
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Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:21 am to ipodking
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Les has had 4 of the top 5 offenses in LSU history
2006
2007
2011
2013
Yes, lets examine those more closely
2006, 2007 - were Jimbos QBs, a man hired by Saban not Miles, and both men have more of a proven track record in that area
2011 - was mainly due to Miles being forced to start an elite 11 QB that was recruited by Jimbo, but Miles could not wait to bench, even tho he had posted a perfect record. That alone should have gotten him fired. Benching a QB with an undefeated season
Who the frick does that?? 2013 - also a QB that Miles did not recruit, who came to LSU as a JuCo transfer because Miles had no other option available, after almost a decade as head coach. Mett also played with NFL all-star talent, and yet lost 3 games, and won no hardware
So, it actually makes the case that we are more successful when Miles doesnt have his hand in the offense
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:22 am to League Champs
quote:
Yes, lets examine those more closely 2006, 2007 - were Jimbos QBs, a man hired by Saban not Miles, and both men have more of a proven track record in that area 2011 - was mainly due to Miles being forced to start an elite 11 QB that was recruited by Jimbo, but Miles could not wait to bench, even tho he had posted a perfect record. That alone should have gotten him fired. Benching a QB with an undefeated season Who the frick does that?? 2013 - also a QB that Miles did not recruit, who came to LSU as a JuCo transfer because Miles had no other option available, after almost a decade as head coach. Mett also played with NFL all-star talent, and yet lost 3 games, and won no hardware So, it actually makes the case that we are more successful when Miles doesnt have his hand in the offense
No credit for the success all credit for failures
Great fans at LSU.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:23 am to FreddieMac
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Last time I check, Miles hired those DCs. Really, have a bit of intellectual honesty, you cannot attribute everything bad to Miles and give him no credit for the good as well. Just makes you sound like a jackass.
I give Les a lot of credit for hiring those DC's. I also give him even more credit for stepping aside and letting his DC do his fricking job.
Les also hired his OC's, and that's where I fault him - he fancies himself an offensive guru and he's not. Maybe if it were the 1970's he would look like a genius, but his offensive coordinators have been paid scapegoats taking the fall for his egomaniacal belief that he is smarter than his OC, and the one common denominator through 11 years of average (at best) offense and 5 offensive coordinators is Les Miles.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:26 am to vjm41
Vjm41
I can only imagine what kind of life you lead with the intelligence level you apparently have. If you honestly think the best decade in LSU football was a waste....good god I can't imagine how low your IQ is.
I can only imagine what kind of life you lead with the intelligence level you apparently have. If you honestly think the best decade in LSU football was a waste....good god I can't imagine how low your IQ is.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:30 am to winston318
Then you can't blame Les for the defense. In fact, this is all allevas fault then for not retaining chavis. And it's chavis fault for the lack of depth in the front 7.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:30 am to League Champs
League Champs
Do you work? If so, do you often get lost on your way to/from?
Do you work? If so, do you often get lost on your way to/from?
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:37 am to LNCHBOX
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The ones where we cored over 40 in each?
the writing was on the wall with Jefferson during the UGA game.
He went 5/13 30 yards.
The defense locked down both those teams. Created turnsovers that lead to short fields. That offense was far from good.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:40 am to dgnx6
I've never judged CLM on the defense. For 90% of the time the Defense has been the bright spot on this team. I Blame Chavis and Brick for the short comings of the defense lately.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:44 am to geauxtigers33
2011 offense had a lot to do with our defense, especially Tyrann. Many games we did not score until defensive turnovers or big play by special teams. See Oregon, Arkansas, Georgia.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:45 am to League Champs
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also a QB that Miles did not recruit, who came to LSU as a JuCo transfer
You mean Mett just walked into the office and said "I'm here!"? He was not recruited from the JC?
We may or may not have tried to recruit him out of HS but given that his mother worked for the UGA football program no one but UGA really had a shot.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:47 am to Dire Wolf
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That offense was far from good.
You can say JJ wasn't good all you want. The 2011 offense as a unit was fantastic in 12 of 14 games.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 10:48 am to BilltheTiger
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Many games we did not score until defensive turnovers or big play by special teams. See Oregon, Arkansas, Georgia
Says many games, lists 3 out of 14.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:29 pm to Macavity92
quote:
He was not recruited from the JC?
JC teams send their films out on their behalf, then are contaced by schools that are interested.
The process is better described as the JC player looking for a home, rather than coaches spending a ton of time scouting them
quote:
A True Story About the Recruiting Funnel
Mason was a standout football player in high school and received plenty of letters and interest from college coaches. When he was a junior he noticed that his friends were making college visits, committing to schools and getting scholarships. But he wasn’t.
Mason didn’t know about the recruiting funnel, and he thought that the multitude of letters he was getting early in high school meant that he’d have a spot on a college football team waiting for him. He was wrong.
What did Mason do wrong? For one, he wasn’t proactive enough and didn’t express interest in schools by contacting coaches and sending letters.
The good news is that once in junior college Mason realized his mistakes and went into high gear. He called and wrote as many coaches as he could and eventually landed a scholarship.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:46 pm to LNCHBOX
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The 2011 offense as a unit was fantastic in 12 of 14 games.
Ehhhh. They were okay. Took advantage of having good field position most of the time.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:51 pm to winston318
Posted on 11/25/15 at 3:52 pm to IIxxBREADxxII
quote:LSU's offense was much better than your defense that season
The 2007 offense was not bad
Posted on 11/25/15 at 4:02 pm to winston318
He had everything to do with both sides of the ball - and the special teams, and the verything else.
Posted on 11/25/15 at 4:13 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
JLee led the SEC in efficiency going in to the GOTC, with a TD:INT of 13 to 1. The offense moved the ball basically at will on everyone except Bama, and there are numerous stats to back that up. It didn't matter where we started on the field, we could move the ball. Attempting to discredit our offense (at least pre return of JJ) is very disingenuous.
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