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re: Clemson O did lots of things that I hope LSU OC took note of...
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:39 am to kevg33
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:39 am to kevg33
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Clemson lost by essentially 13 pts. That last TD was a garbage TD that Bama didn't care about.
I don't understand why people keep saying this. Bama had serious tight butthole until they recovered the onside kick. That was not a garbage TD by any means. Not to mention, that throw was amazing.
This post was edited on 1/13/16 at 6:40 am
Posted on 1/13/16 at 6:56 am to ecb
Yes, Clemson lost captain obvious. There is ALOT more to this conversation than one single fact can cover... But if we are just pointing to single facts to sum up the whole debate tell me this, What were Clemson's final offensive stats compared to ours against BAMA....oh and bama did flat beat us upfront BUUUUTTTT, if that's all that matters, Is Clemson's O line THAT much better than ours??? You can scheme to help your o line. Clemson did, We Did Not.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:11 am to Cs
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LSU will never consistently drive the ball on Alabama in the manner in which Clemson did last night unless the overall design of the offensive is overhauled.
Why do people keep repeating this nonsense? It isn't a design issue it's simply a philosophical issue. I guarantee very similar plays are already in the playbook. In order to feel comfortable calling plays the OC needs to feel comfortable with the QB executing the plays.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:23 am to Lee Chatelain
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AND.....they still lost!
Yes, but it wasn't from lack of offense. Pass defense and special teams were atrocious.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:32 am to BayouSizzle
Two things right away jumped out at me was rolling the pocket on designed passing plays to negate the Bama pass rush; and the fake WR screen, then laser down the seam. I saw Clemson execute it flawlessly at least 3 times for 15 yd+ gains. Bama would jump the WR screen, leaving the slot open for a slant pass. Honestly one broken or missed tackle there and it would have been off to the endzone.
Kudos to Clemson OC, all night he made Bama look VERY avg on D. Their D was in constant react mode, Clemson set the pace. Of course it helps when you have a qb who can throw a great ball in stride to receivers, and Watson did that for most of the night. Well planned and well executed. Not much more you can say.
Kudos to Clemson OC, all night he made Bama look VERY avg on D. Their D was in constant react mode, Clemson set the pace. Of course it helps when you have a qb who can throw a great ball in stride to receivers, and Watson did that for most of the night. Well planned and well executed. Not much more you can say.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:45 am to timm6971463
It doesn't matter if you have a dual threat QB if he can hit the passes when called on. If the defense doesn't really have to respect the pass they will still gang up to stop the run. I did notice that rolling him out made a big difference.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 7:50 am to Douboy
LSU 0 10 0 6 16
ALA 0 13 14 3 30
13 to 10 at the half. Bama had serious butthole the whole game.
ALA 0 13 14 3 30
13 to 10 at the half. Bama had serious butthole the whole game.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:05 am to kevg33
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Clemson lost by essentially 13 pts. That last TD was a garbage TD that Bama didn't care about.
Aww well that settles it. No need to take note of how to score 40 pts and rack up over 500 yards on that BAMA D.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:13 am to chilge1
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Fact of the matter is that Alabama is good enough on defense to win the tough, gritty games, and they're good enough on offense to win the shootouts; the only way to beat them is to be better than they are in all three facets of the game. Again, that's true regardless of what type of offense you're running.
You are using a lot of words to say nothing. Coach Miles?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:19 am to dgnx6
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I disagree, I don't think Harris is even close to Watson. I don't get why people think Harris is some amazing runner. Has he had success at times? Yes, but no more than Jordan Jefferson. He is not the same caliber as Watson.
We don't know how good Harris can be. We don't know how good Watson would be here. Watson didn't walk into Clemson's campus able to calmly make the right decision, run when necessary, and throw accurate passes in a national championship game.
If we don't make better use of every game on our schedule, even the supposedly easy wins, we will never have optimal results.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:20 am to Tiger Khan
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No need to take note of how to score 40 pts and rack up over 500 yards on that BAMA D.
There are things from that game that are worth trying to replicate, but Deshaun Watson would have been a top five draft pick this year if he was eligible to enter the NFL. Less than 1% of the quarterbacks at the collegiate level are capable of attacking an Alabama defense like that.
However, trying to duplicate what Clemson did to Alabama is to go away from our team's strengths. We have a top five draft pick of our own, who would be completely neutralized in that type of attack.
That's not a recipe for winning games with the roster that we have.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:23 am to uway
Point is racking up yards and 40 points isn't a sure fire way to beat Alabama. Last time we beat them is was 9-6 if I remember right. We lost by 14 this year and Clemson lost by essentially 13 but hey, their way is soooo much better. Obviously there are better things we can do but if you go look at the LSU/Bama game and realize that if we execute and complete this easy pass or that 3rd down conversion, the game would have been even closer
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:24 am to Mrtommorrow1987
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He is actually really bad at it if you took the time to watch the film.
Alright uncle Rico. You watching that all 22 after each game?
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:33 am to kevg33
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Point is racking up yards and 40 points isn't a sure fire way to beat Alabama.
As opposed to what we have been doing the past 5 years? Clemson would have won that game if not for the refs blunder at the end of half and the onside kick.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:35 am to chilge1
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However, trying to duplicate what Clemson did to Alabama is to go away from our team's strengths
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That's not a recipe for winning games with the roster that we have.
The entire point of this thread is way above and beyond your "Safe" thinking dude.
But for your sake -- this isn't about replicating or duplicating -- it's about scheming smarter with your superior talent.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:37 am to KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Clemson would have won that game if the refs did not ignore the multiple block in the backs by Alabama.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:38 am to Tiger Khan
I think the coaches have that part but thanks for your insight.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:41 am to themunch
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I think the coaches have that part but thanks for your insight.
Ahhh, thank God you're here to let us know that. Geeze I thought Miles was reading all of this.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 8:46 am to Tiger Khan
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it's about scheming smarter with your superior talent.
Nobody in the country has superior talent when the comparison involves Alabama... that much should be obvious. But even if you compare the talent level of LSU over the last three years, it doesn't match up with what we had for the first three years of Miles's tenure, or what we had from 2010-12.
Any of those teams would kick the dogshit out of the 2013-15 LSU squads and that has nothing to do with offensive philosophy.
While nothing official has come out regarding Beckwith or White, the players that have announced is enough to state with certainty that this is going to be the most loaded roster we've had in several years. We'll beat Alabama next year, scheme change or not.
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