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Clearing up a couple of things on Steele
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:34 pm
I admit that I was hoping for a big splash, and it's hard to be super excited about this - but it may not be as bad as everyone is making it seem.
Just wanted to point out a couple of things:
People keep quoting Clemson's defensive stats from 2012. Steele wasn't DC there in 2012. He left after their bowl game in January of 2012. LINK
People (rightlfully) remember the drubbing that WVU put on Clemson that year - but WVU put up nearly as many yards on our defense that same year. LINK
Anyways, I'm hoping that Steele will continue to recruit lights out, and that we will field a great defense.
Just wanted to point out a couple of things:
People keep quoting Clemson's defensive stats from 2012. Steele wasn't DC there in 2012. He left after their bowl game in January of 2012. LINK
People (rightlfully) remember the drubbing that WVU put on Clemson that year - but WVU put up nearly as many yards on our defense that same year. LINK
Anyways, I'm hoping that Steele will continue to recruit lights out, and that we will field a great defense.
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:36 pm to TBTH
Fired
Demoted
Fired
Demoted
Fired
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:39 pm to drizztiger
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Fired
Demoted
Fired
He was never demoted at Alabama. Saban has continously hired and promoted Steele.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:41 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He was never demoted at Alabama. Saban has continously hired and promoted Steele.
Assistant Head coach is a nice way of saying demoted when you are no longer the DC. that is not a promotion.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:44 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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He was never demoted at Alabama
DC in 07, demoted in 08...was he not?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:45 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Saban demoted Steele from DC in 2007 to co-DC in 2008. After Steele was fired from Clemson as DC and re-hired by Saban, he didn't even get the co-DC back. Luckily last year, he got LB coach added to his job description.
He was never demoted at Alabama. Saban has continously hired and promoted Steele.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:46 pm to SammyTiger
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Assistant Head coach is a nice way of saying demoted when you are no longer the DC.
He's not even an assistant head coach, according to Alabama's official site his title is:
quote:
Linebackers/Special Assistant to Head Coach
Essentially we've hired Dwight Schrute.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:47 pm to drizztiger
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Saban demoted Steele from DC in 2007 to co-DC in 2008. After Steele was fired from Clemson as DC and re-hired by Saban, he didn't even get the co-DC back. Luckily last year, he got LB coach added to his job description.
clearly Saban sees some value in him to keep him around when he could fire him, and not rehire him.
But that clearly isn't his Xs and Os
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:52 pm to TBTH
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Anyways, I'm hoping that Steele will continue to recruit lights out, and that we will field a great defense.
recruiting kids to play football for Saban is a little different then recruiting them to play for Les. I can be a good recruiter for a Saban coached team.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:56 pm to vjp819
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recruiting kids to play football for Saban is a little different then recruiting them to play for Les. I can be a good recruiter for a Saban coached team.
C'mon, let's be fair. Nobody is doubting his abilities as a recruiter. He was the Rivals national recruiter of the year in 2005 at FSU as well.
I get your point that Saban will still get plenty of recruits, but I don't think Steele will have much trouble selling LSU either.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:59 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Of course.
clearly Saban sees some value in him to keep him around when he could fire him, and not rehire him.
But that clearly isn't his Xs and Os
I'm not saying anything to the contrary.
My point is that he was demoted at Bama from his DC position, fired from Clemson as DC.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:01 am to Mickey Goldmill
So Steele is Saban's Bradley Dale?
For guys who want stats, this is a good site. Just click on 'schools'.
It gives every scoring ranking every year for every school. Just go to the school of choice and pick the year.
You can see how successful Steele has been at his multiple stops
LINK
For guys who want stats, this is a good site. Just click on 'schools'.
It gives every scoring ranking every year for every school. Just go to the school of choice and pick the year.
You can see how successful Steele has been at his multiple stops
LINK
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 12:03 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:06 am to drizztiger
Demoted? Lets see.
2008 Alabama Salaries: Offensive line coach Joe Pendry ($350,000), defensive head coach Steele ($350,000), defensive coordinator Smart ($275,000), running backs coach Burton Burns ($220,000), outside linebackers coach Lance Thompson ($210,000), defensive line coach Bo Davis ($190,000), and receivers coach Curt Cignetti ($170,000).
https://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022608aaa.html
So again, he was not demoted. If anything, Smart was only promoted to keep him from leaving.
2008 Alabama Salaries: Offensive line coach Joe Pendry ($350,000), defensive head coach Steele ($350,000), defensive coordinator Smart ($275,000), running backs coach Burton Burns ($220,000), outside linebackers coach Lance Thompson ($210,000), defensive line coach Bo Davis ($190,000), and receivers coach Curt Cignetti ($170,000).
https://www.rolltide.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/022608aaa.html
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Saban also announced Tuesday that Steele was promoted to associate head coach/head defensive coach and Smart was promoted to defensive coordinator. Alabama ranked 27th nationally last season in scoring defense (22.0 ppg) and 31st nationally in total defense (345.5 ypg). Three members of the Crimson Tide defense earned first team All-SEC honors (Wallace Gilberry, Rashad Johnson and Simeon Castille) while two other defenders were named to the All-SEC Freshmen team (Rolando McClain and Kareem Jackson).
“Kevin’s an outstanding coach and an outstanding recruiter,” said Saban. “He has become a right hand man for me. He’s certainly a guy who would make a fantastic head coach. Of all the assistant coaches I’ve had, Kevin’s as fine as any of them. “Kirby had the opportunity to go someplace else as a defensive coordinator,” said Saban. “We felt it was imperative and very important to keep these two guys together. They had worked very well together in the past. They worked very well last year in helping our defense improve as the year went on. I’m very happy and pleased to have both of those guys on the staff. They both make a strong contribution, they both have tremendous leadership qualities, and they are both very, very good recruiters.”
So again, he was not demoted. If anything, Smart was only promoted to keep him from leaving.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:07 am to Mickey Goldmill
Being the Co/DC is not being demoted when you were DC?
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 12:08 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:08 am to demtigers73
see above
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:11 am to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Such a good DC he got Kirby Smart promoted to DC then left a year later to leave his promotion to be DC at Clemson.
Steele was promoted to associate head coach/head defensive coach and Smart was promoted to defensive coordinator.
Trees.
Forest.
Sorry you can't see it bro. I feel bad for you.
This post was edited on 1/14/15 at 12:12 am
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:12 am to MOT
quote:
Essentially we've hired Dwight Schrute.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:12 am to Mickey Goldmill
Keep pumping brah!
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:13 am to drizztiger
Posted on 1/14/15 at 12:14 am to Mickey Goldmill
Anybody whom has any experience in life and workplace knows that being PC and not burning bridges is the route you have to take. It doesn't matter the money he was making, they saw they made a mistake but didnt want to implode the program so the repurposed him and let him go the following year... That's the professional way to handle it. Legally you are not even allowed to badmouth an employee because it hinders their ability to find another job...
He's obviously got skills as a recruiter and that is why he has the slightest of interest.
I think everybody could read through the lines that Steele really cant hack it and Bama only kept him around in meaningless roles for his help in recruiting. This is a complete swing and miss for LSU
He's obviously got skills as a recruiter and that is why he has the slightest of interest.
I think everybody could read through the lines that Steele really cant hack it and Bama only kept him around in meaningless roles for his help in recruiting. This is a complete swing and miss for LSU
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