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Posted on 7/10/10 at 9:27 am to bmy
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You know that Perriloux was the starter in 2008 and that he was proven
starter yes, proven no
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He started and won the freaking SECCG
and how many points did we score in that game compared to the rest of the season? Keep in mind 7 of them are from a pick 6
Posted on 7/10/10 at 9:48 am to Prominentwon
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:05 am to ForeLSU
Thanks for finding the most salient post. I thought that was well written and thought out. At first I was sorry to see Garrett go because of I what I hoped he was - a top flight SEC-caliber QB in waiting. It sounds like he was no where close to that. Several months ago when I heard the rumor that he told the coaches he wasn't ready to step up I was concerned he was never going to be the guy. Good luck to him. Let's hope Z. Lee is the real deal and he stays. We definitely need to recruit QBs hard, though. I wish we would have offered the kid from Catholic. At worst he would be an adequate stop-gap. At best he could be another Applewhite. For the next two years we need to be able to rely on JJ and JLee. Hopefully they continue to improve.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 10:32 am to josh336
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and how many points did we score in that game compared to the rest of the season? Keep in mind 7 of them are from a pick 6
You do know that Perriloux had his ring finger bent back and a finger nail almost ripped off late in first half Since it was his first game starting,LSU called a more conservative game than if he was more experienced. He had command of the offense and the huddle something we have never seen out of JJ.I saw enough of him to know that he was the real deal on the field.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:12 am to bmy
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holy shite, talk about a spin job..
Come on now. You know that Perriloux was the starter in 2008 and that he was proven. He started and won the freaking SECCG, cmon. The situations are entirely different.
The post I responded to characterized Garrett as a 3rd or 4th string QB, which is what he was when he was on the team (just as Perrilloux was a backup when he was on the team), but for 2012, he was projected to be, at worst, 2nd string behind Z. Lee (just as Perrilloux was projected to start in 2008). Garrett's not a big loss for this year, but we are now depending on Z. Lee to A) not play MLB and B) be the first QB recruited by Miles to be a reliable starter, or we go into 2012 with a walk-on (Bailey) or a RS freshman at best (a recruit we sign this February). The hope was that Garrett would be the first QB that Miles and Crowton didn't frick up on, and that he would be ready to contribute in 2012. That hope was dashed when he got cut and it became clear that the QB frickup train is still running full steam ahead. They are completely useless at evaluating/recruiting/developing QBs. Completely useless. 0-for-5 and counting so far.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:15 am to Bernie Moore
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and how many points did we score in that game compared to the rest of the season? Keep in mind 7 of them are from a pick 6
You do know that Perriloux had his ring finger bent back and a finger nail almost ripped off late in first half Since it was his first game starting,LSU called a more conservative game than if he was more experienced. He had command of the offense and the huddle something we have never seen out of JJ.I saw enough of him to know that he was the real deal on the field.
Good point Bernie, although Ryan had started the MTSU game earlier in the year due to Flynn's ankle sprain. He was injured in the SECCG and played very well against a championship caliber defense. There is no comparison IMO between RP's football ability and JJ's . With no other change besides RP at QB during the past two seasons, LSU wins aminimum of 4 more games and quite possibly an SEC title. The grand scheme of things was changed drastically by the lack of personal discipline displayed by RP. But water under the bridge and all that, let's hope for drastic improvement in both JJ and JL for the next two seasons.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 11:41 am to Nuts4LSU
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The post I responded to characterized Garrett as a 3rd or 4th string QB, which is what he was when he was on the team (just as Perrilloux was a backup when he was on the team), but for 2012, he was projected to be, at worst, 2nd string behind Z. Lee (just as Perrilloux was projected to start in 2008). Garrett's not a big loss for this year, but we are now depending on Z. Lee to A) not play MLB and B) be the first QB recruited by Miles to be a reliable starter, or we go into 2012 with a walk-on (Bailey) or a RS freshman at best (a recruit we sign this February). The hope was that Garrett would be the first QB that Miles and Crowton didn't frick up on, and that he would be ready to contribute in 2012. That hope was dashed when he got cut and it became clear that the QB frickup train is still running full steam ahead. They are completely useless at evaluating/recruiting/developing QBs. Completely useless. 0-for-5 and counting so far.
How can you say they are 0-5. If you will check the archives,it was guys like you who proclaimed JJ all world after completing passes rolling to his right against an overrated GT team. Anyone that knew football,realized he had not demonstrated that he could stand in the pocket and throw. Lee was crucified on this board for the pick sixes he threw when there is no way to know if an interception will be returned for a td. Several balls bounced off receivers into dbs hands. There was not much effort to tackle the dbs once they caught the ball either. JJ and JL have each started one yr with two yrs of eligibility left so I can't say they are busts.
RP and JL were highly recruited so I gues those coaches couldn't evaluate talent either.
Of course,it takes a big man to bash players and coaches from behind the safety and anonyominity of the internet. Does it make you feel better about your life?
Posted on 7/10/10 at 1:23 pm to supatigah
Plausible fiction. Without any proof/evidence Supatigah's post is no more real than anything else.
Just as plausible (but also without a shred of proof/evidence) is:
Miles made it clear to CG that he had to beat out JJ & JL, and that the bar would be high since Les wants QB in waiting for the day when JJ & JL leave. Basically CG is going to be "parked" for a couple of years. CG decides he doesn't want to wait and lets Les know. Les cuts him free.
Just as plausible (but also without a shred of proof/evidence) is:
Miles made it clear to CG that he had to beat out JJ & JL, and that the bar would be high since Les wants QB in waiting for the day when JJ & JL leave. Basically CG is going to be "parked" for a couple of years. CG decides he doesn't want to wait and lets Les know. Les cuts him free.
Posted on 7/10/10 at 1:56 pm to supatigah
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CG gets pissed and tells his buddies that LSU screwed him, but in reality he screwed himself.
Probable senario- kid's ego was hurt, so he lashes out at the coach, university, etc.
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Frankly if CG had the goods to beat out JJ or JL he would have gotten his fair chance. Since the staff has seen his act up close everyday since last summer, I take it they know how to ID a kid that can't/won't cut it
With the way the offense played last year, Miles would truly be nuts not to put the best QB on the field to give him a chance to produce & win. However, how many of these do we see? Tommy Hodson would have played as a true freshman, except for injury, but showed his stuff as a redshirt freshman. We could sure use another Hodson today...hope ZLee does make us all happy Tigers....
Anyway, supatigah, great post...
Posted on 7/10/10 at 4:42 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Nuts4LSU
Even after Supah explained the situation about the Garrett situation, point blank, you STILL find something to bitch about. You couldn't just read it and move on knowing what happened. NEVER have I EVER seen anything positive from you. You must be a JOY to be around. You're like the old man who's yard young kids won't set foot in because you'll get your broom out and yell at them.
FWIW, Saban is a terrible judgement of talent because he recruited and signed Star Jackson. Yeah, the Star Jackson that was terrible and has since moved on to Georgia St.
It's people like you that thrive on negativity. Why don't you just go the frick away? God. I know you're not going to because you have to be here to lead the constant protesters.
This post was edited on 7/10/10 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 7/10/10 at 5:00 pm to Prominentwon
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You must be a JOY to be around
Somebody who gets this worked up and goes this berserk over what someone posted on a message board must be just a thrill to be around.
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NEVER have I EVER seen anything positive from you.
I doubt you see much of anything that happens. Your world is not the one the rest of us live in.
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Saban is a terrible judgement of talent because he recruited and signed Star Jackson. Yeah, the Star Jackson that was terrible and has since moved on to Georgia St.
Who gives a shite about Saban? Are you so hung up on him that you just can't let it go?
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Even after Supah explained the situation about the Garrett situation,
Who had any doubts about that? So what? The kid was apparently not any good, or the coaches couldn't teach him, or he had an attitude problem, so we cut him, and he will never be a productive starting QB for us. Big deal. That's every QB we've signed since Miles got here. It's nothing to be concerned about. After all, this staff's utter inability to evaluate/recruit/develop QBs hasn't caused us any problems yet, has it? With QB position such a strength of our team like it is and has been for the last couple of years, why worry about yet another bust at that position?
Posted on 7/13/10 at 6:51 pm to Antonio Moss
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He's a two-star on scout and ranked as the #101 overall prospect at QB.
Garrett was a three-star on Scout as ranked as the #27 overall prospect at QB.
#27 to #101 is a huge difference.
Look, I'm not trying to hate on the guy, but he's only D1 offers were from Northwestern State and ULM.
And I'm tracking with you - that was the calculus at the time they were recruited. However, if Garrett wasn't/isn't going to be the guy, why not let the hardworking walk-on, who might be able to contribute down the line situationally step in, and cut loose a scholarship player who has different needs.
And likewise, I don't want to hate on Garrett, but it is tough to get cut without playing or having off-the field "encounters" with law enforcement personnel.
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 6:58 pm
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