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re: Cameron on 104.5 this morning
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:57 pm to moneyg
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:57 pm to moneyg
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if you look at that game and say that the game was lost on the decision to start Jefferson over Lee.
5/13, 30 yds.
that was the previous game stats by JJ.
yes, starting a player who put up that stat line is basically conceding defeat.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 3:59 pm to dukke v
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I won't disagree with this.. But yet Miles was NOT smart enough to think that Saban knew what was coming and Miles didn't make ANY adjustments to counter this... THIS is not debatable.....
The 2011 team's kryptonite was a defense that could both stuff the run and get pressure on the QB.
When you are a run centric offense like LSU was, and someone dominates you at the LOS, you get what you saw that night. LSU played the same brand of football all year. To expect them to start slinging the ball around successfully against Alabama in the face of the pass rush that they were getting that night is beyond naive. Our only chance of winning that game was to find a way to get the running game going and then throw off play action like we had ALL FREAKING YEAR.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:01 pm to CptBengal
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5/13, 30 yds.
that was the previous game stats by JJ.
yes, starting a player who put up that stat line is basically conceding defeat.
This is a classic mistake of assuming there is a solution to the problem.
Certainly you saw Lee against Bama in November, right? Certainly, you weren't the only guy in Baton Rouge who failed to recognize Lee's tendency to fold in the pocket under pressure right?
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:04 pm to lsuguru
My two cents: I just don't think Jennings is an SEC-caliber QB. If he were a game manager that didn't make a lot of mistakes, I'd be willing to accept him as the starter. But as we know, he does make quite a few mistakes. Given that, I'd rather go with Harris, who will no doubt make mistakes, too, but has markedly more physical skills than Jennings.
I think this could be a watershed year for Cameron, b/c he's getting paid a ton of money, and, I don't think two years in a row of garbage QB play is acceptable. I am cautiously optimistic that Cam can coach up Harris and that he will be a pleasant surprise this year.
I would love to see them call first down passing plays -- short passes to the tight end and backs -- to allow Harris to gain some confidence in the pocket and get his feet under him (like we've seen other teams do with inexperienced QBs.)
Also, in general, more passes to the tight ends, and screen passes (regular screen passes to backs and not "bubble screens" to wide receivers) please.
I think this could be a watershed year for Cameron, b/c he's getting paid a ton of money, and, I don't think two years in a row of garbage QB play is acceptable. I am cautiously optimistic that Cam can coach up Harris and that he will be a pleasant surprise this year.
I would love to see them call first down passing plays -- short passes to the tight end and backs -- to allow Harris to gain some confidence in the pocket and get his feet under him (like we've seen other teams do with inexperienced QBs.)
Also, in general, more passes to the tight ends, and screen passes (regular screen passes to backs and not "bubble screens" to wide receivers) please.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:07 pm to Salmon
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I(f Harris is better, he will start
BH should pay the ransom and get those pics from JJ if he wants to start.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:13 pm to moneyg
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This is a classic mistake of assuming there is a solution to the problem.
Certainly you saw Lee against Bama in November, right? Certainly, you weren't the only guy in Baton Rouge who failed to recognize Lee's tendency to fold in the pocket under pressure right?
Ah, so you're claiming that previous play will result in similar play?
Good. because so am I. You can go look at the GOTC. Lee was moving the chains against bama. The int's hurt, but he was moving the chains.
JJ couldnt even do that on 1/9. or even in the SECCG.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:14 pm to CptBengal
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the percentages STRONGLY favored Jefferson
quote:Wow!quote:
It's not really debatable.
You got me.
Who could possibly argue with three emoticons?!?!
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:16 pm to Salviati
the percentages do not favor you, Jordan, and certainly not strongly. In fact, I'll argue that there is no statistical difference between the two QBs.
None. Zilch. Nada. Sorry, JJ.
None. Zilch. Nada. Sorry, JJ.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:18 pm to CptBengal
quote:That's an interesting point of view.quote:5/13, 30 yds.
if you look at that game and say that the game was lost on the decision to start Jefferson over Lee.
that was the previous game stats by JJ.
yes, starting a player who put up that stat line is basically conceding defeat.
Because "starting a player who put up that stat line" in that game resulted in FOUR offensive TDs, a blowout win for LSU in the opponent's backyard, and and an SEC Championship for LSU.
Hmmm . . . maybe Miles knows a lot more than you for "starting a player who put up that stat line" in that game.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:19 pm to lsuguru
I'd be more worried that Harris will leave, especially if our QB coach can't make him better than what we had the last 2 years. Harris has to be wondering what he has to do to get an opportunity to get enough experience to be viable.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:19 pm to moneyg
quote:quote:The 2011 team's kryptonite was a defense that could both stuff the run and get pressure on the QB.
I won't disagree with this.. But yet Miles was NOT smart enough to think that Saban knew what was coming and Miles didn't make ANY adjustments to counter this... THIS is not debatable.....
When you are a run centric offense like LSU was, and someone dominates you at the LOS, you get what you saw that night. LSU played the same brand of football all year. To expect them to start slinging the ball around successfully against Alabama in the face of the pass rush that they were getting that night is beyond naive. Our only chance of winning that game was to find a way to get the running game going and then throw off play action like we had ALL FREAKING YEAR.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:20 pm to Salviati
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That's an interesting point of view.
Because "starting a player who put up that stat line" in that game resulted in FOUR offensive TDs, a blowout win for LSU in the opponent's backyard, and and an SEC Championship for LSU.
lolz.
keep thinking he was part of the victory, and not a hinderance.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:27 pm to CptBengal
quote:quote:Ah, so you're claiming that previous play will result in similar play?
This is a classic mistake of assuming there is a solution to the problem.
Certainly you saw Lee against Bama in November, right? Certainly, you weren't the only guy in Baton Rouge who failed to recognize Lee's tendency to fold in the pocket under pressure right?
Good. because so am I. You can go look at the GOTC. Lee was moving the chains against bama. The int's hurt, but he was moving the chains.
Am I doing this right? Wait, I need one more.
There, that's three.
You act like the GOTC is not recorded and the stats posted. It is, and they are.
Lee got ONE first down in the GOTC. ONE.
Lee got ONE first down, and he threw TWO interceptions. One of the interceptions led to an Alabama field goal.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:28 pm to CptBengal
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keep thinking he was part of the victory, and not a hinderance
Frustration/embarrassment ... Miles, Jefferson ... these may not be the reason we lost, likely comes down to one word: Nick Saban.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:33 pm to Salviati
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Lee got ONE first down in the GOTC. ONE.
in how many snaps?
And how many did you have JJ, and how many snaps did you take?
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:37 pm to moneyg
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But, you don't know what you are talking about if you look at that game and say that the game was lost on the decision to start Jefferson over Lee.
I never said that. I just said that, with the offense performing horrifically with JJ, we were headed to certain defeat. Best to try something different to try to generate an offensive spark.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:42 pm to moneyg
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This is a classic mistake of assuming there is a solution to the problem.
Certainly you saw Lee against Bama in November, right? Certainly, you weren't the only guy in Baton Rouge who failed to recognize Lee's tendency to fold in the pocket under pressure right?
Go watch our first drive in the second half. Lee completes the first pass for a touchdown. The second one wouldn't have happened, but he would have gotten more than 19 yards because he wouldn't have thrown it that poorly. If Lee runs that first play, that game is 12-7. The Badger would have taken care of the rest. Blee dat. Don't buy the gump line that LSU couldn't have won. That's horseshite.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:43 pm to Salviati
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by Salviati
Dude, please stop with this shite. Jefferson was a bad qb. He was not good at all. He was the worst qb to ever play in a mnc game and a piece of shite who got arrested to top it off. You bringing your cherry picked charts out everytime someone mentions his name is pathetic and creepy. You need help in the worst way. You have the tendencies of a serial killer and must have had a terrible childhood. I'm sorry for you and hope all is better now. But please, leave your charts and your strange love for a bad qb alone and off this board
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:44 pm to Salviati
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That's an interesting point of view.
Because "starting a player who put up that stat line" in that game resulted in FOUR offensive TDs, a blowout win for LSU in the opponent's backyard, and and an SEC Championship for LSU.
Hmmm . . . maybe Miles knows a lot more than you for "starting a player who put up that stat line" in that game.
Ha. In logic textbooks, this post should come under the headings of non sequitur AND post hoc ergo propter hoc. Nice work. I'm assuming this must be a parody account.
Posted on 8/4/15 at 4:46 pm to Vanilla Coke
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you really start to see players rise in maturity and leadership in their 3rd year
didn't jennings get arrested for breaking into someones home to get his stolen stuff back? You can't just go vigilante justice in BR. that's not how this works. that's not how any of this works.
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