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re: Bring back the BCS System!! Better for college football long-term
Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:20 pm to KevinFaulkDaGawd
Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:20 pm to KevinFaulkDaGawd
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The BCS was never the problem. It was the fact that the BCS only picked two teams. They needed to keep the BCS, just select 4 teams instead of 2.
ABSOLUTELY .. it was the PRESIDENTS from the various conferences who could not compete that complained .
The BCS worked well, just too few teams...
I do not like 4, only because it does not reward anyone for being #1 or #2....
I suggest 6 w #1 and # 2 getting a bye...
let the BCS pick them and if it includes 6 conferences so be it...same as if it only includes 4 or ???
GET THE HUMAN FACTOR OUT OF IT ..did we not learn from the times prior to BCS ?
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:33 pm to atltiger6487
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ecause not all conferences are equal. Some years, the second place team in one conference could easily win all the other conferences - but they're stuck in the best conference. We see it in the SEC West. If LSU dominates every game we play but lose to Bama by one point, are we completely out of the playoff conversation - all because we didn't win our conference.
I’m ok with this so long as it applies to everyone, and Notre Dame is forced to join a conference with a conference title game.
The issue is one year saying “you have to win your conference”, and then the next year win 1-loss Bama or Ohio State fails to make the conference title game, suddenly, that doesn’t matter anymore.
Here’s what I want:
1. Another FBS/FCS split. I want fewer teams in FBS and for FBS teams to only play other FBS teams, and for P5 teams to mostly play P5 teams OOC.
2. All P5 conferences be standardized:
a. Have the same number of teams
b. Play the same number of conference games
c. Have the same conditions to make the conference title game
d. Play the conference title game the same weekend
3. Have winning one’s conference be a requirement to make the playoff
4. All independents have to join a conference
5. Either have first round of playoff or conference title game at the home stadium of the higher seeded team
I just want some consistency, rather than “whichever argument puts Bama in”
I’m so damn sick of human polls, marquee OOC games at neutral sites, “the eye test”, rent-a-wins, and blue-blood bias.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 12:33 pm to TigerFan244
You know what. I am tired of everybody saying UGA just didn't show up vs Texas. UGA got beat plain and simple.
UGA is overrated. They simply play in the SEC East which is terrible. Look at Tennessee, South Carolina, Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou. They are weak football programs and UGA is the best of a sorry bunch.
UGA got blown out by LSU, beaten by Bama, and beaten by Texas. UGA lost to the 3 best teams on their schedule and saying anything else is just making excuses.
UGA is overrated. They simply play in the SEC East which is terrible. Look at Tennessee, South Carolina, Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou. They are weak football programs and UGA is the best of a sorry bunch.
UGA got blown out by LSU, beaten by Bama, and beaten by Texas. UGA lost to the 3 best teams on their schedule and saying anything else is just making excuses.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:06 pm to kingbob
the Media got control back, they will not let it go back to a computer system.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:20 pm to CarRamrod
quote:do the Media also have control of the March Madness tournament selections, the FCS football playoff selections, college baseball playoff selections, etc.
the Media got control back, they will not let it go back to a computer system.
Because a committee makes those at-large selections (with auto bids given to conf champs).
You do realize that a selection committee comprised of numerous people from different conferences is far superior to the BCS formula (2/3 human polls, 1/3 computer). And just remember that the formulas the computers use are programmed by HUMANS, and there's no agreement on what factors should be considered by the computers, and how much to weight each factor.
Give me a serious selection committee all day long over a computer.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:02 pm to TigerFan244
Agree. It should be BCs ranking system to determine a Top 6 or 8 playoff field
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:26 pm to atltiger6487
quote:i 100% disagree with you. As evidence this year is Clemson. there should be no remembrance of last year. yet they remain #1 in most polls when an unranked UNC almost beat them. that alone should drop them to the bottom of the unbeatens.
You do realize that a selection committee comprised of numerous people from different conferences is far superior to the BCS formula (2/3 human polls, 1/3 computer).
quote:You sound rather uneducated.
And just remember that the formulas the computers use are programmed by HUMANS, and there's no agreement on what factors should be considered by the computers, and how much to weight each factor.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:40 pm to atltiger6487
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do the Media also have control of the March Madness tournament selections, the FCS football playoff selections, college baseball playoff selections, etc.
do you really see it as THE SAME ??
March Madness has 64 teams and the NIT to back that up.
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:30 pm to rbdallas
So since the inception of the CFP, the selection committee would have picked the same 4 teams that the BCS would have picked had we still had computers doing the picking. Personally, I would prefer the BCS system, as computers can't change their formula.
For those people saying it's bad because humans input the formula are dumb. Teams wouldn't change the way they played based on the formula. Which of the computer 6 polls were "biased"? What teams are they biased toward? Also, remember per the calculation, the it would kick out the highest and the lowest score, so you basically get the 4 middle computer scores as your ranking along with the Harris and the Coaches poll making up the other 2/3.
Overall, with 62 people voting in the Harris poll and making each voter records public, overall even a few biased voters wouldn't make a difference with the overall ranking.
The fact that the CFP committee can talk amongst each other is a little shady.
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2018:
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2017:
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2016:
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2015:
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2014:
For those people saying it's bad because humans input the formula are dumb. Teams wouldn't change the way they played based on the formula. Which of the computer 6 polls were "biased"? What teams are they biased toward? Also, remember per the calculation, the it would kick out the highest and the lowest score, so you basically get the 4 middle computer scores as your ranking along with the Harris and the Coaches poll making up the other 2/3.
Overall, with 62 people voting in the Harris poll and making each voter records public, overall even a few biased voters wouldn't make a difference with the overall ranking.
The fact that the CFP committee can talk amongst each other is a little shady.
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2018:
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2017:
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2016:
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2015:
Final Ranking on Simulated BCS Vs. CFP Committee 2014:
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:44 pm to TigerFan244
You know what. I am tired of everybody saying UGA just didn't show up vs Texas. UGA got beat plain and simple.
UGA is overrated. They simply play in the SEC East which is terrible. Look at Tennessee, South Carolina, Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou. They are weak football programs and UGA is the best of a sorry bunch.
UGA got blown out by LSU, beaten by Bama, and beaten by Texas. UGA lost to the 3 best teams on their schedule and saying anything else is just making excuses.
UGA is overrated. They simply play in the SEC East which is terrible. Look at Tennessee, South Carolina, Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou. They are weak football programs and UGA is the best of a sorry bunch.
UGA got blown out by LSU, beaten by Bama, and beaten by Texas. UGA lost to the 3 best teams on their schedule and saying anything else is just making excuses.
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