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re: Brandon's high school coach comments

Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:22 pm to
But but shea Dixon said he wasn't putting in the time!!!?&$

No one knows what went on behind closed doors, but Harris should have played and started the last half of the season once it became apparent jennings couldn't get it done. Period
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10444 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

This is ludicrous


Why? There is a difference between mop up duty and one start and actually getting legitimate game experience.

The second half of the season wasted Harris' year. It isn't about him being the starter at all. It's about using the season effectively.

quote:

He got to practice. ....got game time action.....took some lumps


Ummm... no. He played legitimate snaps equivalent to one game versus decent competition. That isn't taking lumps. As he should've gotten more experience and knowledge of the playbook, he sat the bench.

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We don't know exactly WHY he didn't see field much after AU, whether it was right or wrong.


So, because of this Miles and Cam can't be said to have wasted his season? This is stupid logic there.

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BH controls his own destiny and he needs to work his arse off to get the starting job. I sincerely hope he does.


I in no way believe this to be true, and Les has proven over and over again this isn't true under his leadership, so why would I expect fairness to BH now?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260056 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:22 pm to
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BH wants to be the man? Then do what needs to be done on/off the field and it'll happen.


I don't think he would have been the guy no matter what he did last year.

If he didn't play vs Arkansas, it wasn't his work ethic keeping him off the field.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:28 pm to
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If they were so dedicated to AJ, and were reluctant to change, why in the hell did they play and start Harris? I swear our fans are just blind because the hatred of Miles.


When you start a Tr. Soph. and then start a tr. Freshman like 6 games into the season, where in the hell does the "apparent dedication" and "stubbornness of Miles to change" come into play???

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I swear our fans are just blind because the hatred of Miles.


It's like some cant see what's happening in front of their eyes in regard to BOTH QBs getting a shot to start 2 games into the SEC season. How anyone with open eyes can see that as "dedication" or "stubbornness" is beyond me.

Harris's HS coach can say or believe anything he wants, but the only thing that stopped Harris from continuing to start after he was awarded his shot was his own play on the field.

Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41873 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:31 pm to
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If he didn't play vs Arkansas, it wasn't his work ethic keeping him off the field.


I agree with the Arkansas game, BH should have gotten in

But after the AU game and up until the melt down against Bama, AJ was doing what Miles needed him to do.

I'm not saying I agree with LM and CC but their is more to this than BH just not getting more Playing time because they didn't like him.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260056 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:42 pm to
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But after the AU game and up until the melt down against Bama, AJ was doing what Miles needed him to do.


His best game was 50%, 120 yds and no INT's vs UK. He had two INT's vs Ole Miss when the offense scored 10 pts in that stretch.

I disagree. If less than 50% passing, 3 td's and 2 int's as well as 120 yds passing a game is what we want to do, we have more serious problems than I thought.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19266 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:44 pm to
How does CLM play a QB who does not know the plays, does not put in the time in the film room to make himself a better player, who is "lazy" and using a word to keep it polite, is "immature"? This has been stated more than a few times by a wide variety of sources for it not to be factual/the reasons for not giving him playing time. In the Auburn game he was calling out plays from his h.school days. From most "inside" accounts, the players did not trust him. That being the case, how is he supposed to be a leader?
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3392 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:45 pm to
I don't agree with the former coaches advice to go JUCO, but when you consider the total cluster F**k Miles pulled with Lee/Jefferson and now Harris/Jennings, you have to question Miles's decision making regarding playing QB's.

Posted by Frying Beagle
Amherst
Member since Jan 2015
106 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 12:56 pm to
If the kid is a brat - it's the fault of the PARENT!
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 3:17 pm
Posted by marcnbc
Bossier City, LA
Member since May 2004
4173 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:04 pm to
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But but shea Dixon said he wasn't putting in the time!!!?&$


Was it Shea or was it Brandon himself?...

Per BH's twitter in November..
"My thoughts have been MAJOR..But my work ethic has been average, Won't see my results that way"
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Captain Want
Member since Nov 2009
2153 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:06 pm to
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How does CLM play a QB who does not know the plays, does not put in the time in the film room to make himself a better player, who is "lazy" and using a word to keep it polite, is "immature"? This has been stated more than a few times by a wide variety of sources for it not to be factual/the reasons for not giving him playing time. In the Auburn game he was calling out plays from his h.school days. From most "inside" accounts, the players did not trust him. That being the case, how is he supposed to be a leader?


This x 1000.

Jennings is not a great QB but he is a good kid by all accounts, and he busts his arse day in and out to do the best he can. Harris is a good kid too from what I gather, but he doesn't put in the time. He may have the physical gifts that Jennings doesn't, but he doesn't have the work ethic. It's a shame you couldn't combine the two -- then everyone would have what they want.

For now, we all have to wait and hope that Harris matures into what we all want him to be. He has a real chance to be a national star given his physical skills and the talent surrounding him. But he can't just ride the skills - he has to put in the time to review the film and learn the playbook.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 1:07 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68464 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:06 pm to
The coaches went with Jennings and reeled off 3 straight sec wins and a loss to the refs. They made the rt call. Now I agree, they could have done something in the arky game, that was an embarrassment. Cane back and beat tamu, and then the defense failed us in the bowl game.

Next year is a new season. No one knows who is going to start, but they started Harris sooner than any qb not due to injury.

Flynn's first start was injury to jmarc, rps first two starts were injury to Flynn, Lee started after hatch got injured, JJ started after Lee got injured.

So IMO they wanted to get Harris going, he just didn't make that decision easier on them. Harris himself tweeted he had to put in the work to see the field. The guy was calling plays out of the wrong formations, you just can't have that.
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
831 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:11 pm to
Did anyone read the book by Bruce Feldman called, "QB" that released earlier this year? I glanced at it at a bookstore but Harris was mentioned in the book and it was something negative about his mental makeup dealing with one of the recruiting combines. Does anyone have the book that can find the passage?
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:11 pm to
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David Feaster is a straight shooter


But he is an idiot as well. Telling BH to go the juco route with the amount of young talent on this team is just dumb. The freshman and sophmore classes at LSU next year are among the best offensive groups in the country. But yeah Brandon, go juco for a year and find somewhere better.

ETA: Even if BH doesn't play a down next season, his junior and senior year there will be so much talent around him, it will be ridiculous.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 1:14 pm
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14403 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:11 pm to
I get that Harris may not have been ready to take on a significant role, but I do wonder why they didn't have certain packages to get him on the field more.

I've heard all the rumors about his maturity and dedication, but I also know from family and friends up here in NWLA that Harris is a good kid, very smart with a good family and was "mature". The coaches talked glowingly about him at the QB camp in AZ. Now maybe college life and influences away from home got to him, but from what I know of him and his family he just needs good mentors and coaching to succeed.

I just hope he lights it up in the spring because the kid has the talent.
Posted by Frying Beagle
Amherst
Member since Jan 2015
106 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:14 pm to
Into this place, without a trace, confusing grace with outer space.....

na na na na na naaaaaaaaaa!
This post was edited on 2/11/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260056 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:15 pm to
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Feaster is a blowhard. Idk anyone not associated with parkway that likes him.


Maybe. But Feaster knows more about Harris and his situation at LSU than anyone who's posting in this thread.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:16 pm to
If you think BH going to juco is a good idea, your an idiot too. Feaster is a great coach and has accomplished more than I ever could at that level but it is downright foolish to tell a true freshman to bail on the team LSU is putting together. And obviously BH agrees with me.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12222 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:18 pm to
Les Miles has a lot of faults and loyally sticking with failing coaches and players is one of them.
However, IF (reader: pls note qualifier) BH was not working and not learning the playbook (as AJ was) I do NOT blame Miles for not giving PT to Harris.
Les has to motivate an entire team/ program. Those who refuse to give the proper effort and play anyway can be a cancer to an entire team and its effort on Saturdays.
No effort. No play.
Posted by trooploop
Member since Feb 2013
831 posts
Posted on 1/28/15 at 1:18 pm to
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GG thinks coaching QBs straight out of HS is out of the league of a coach like Cam Cameron who molded many good QBs in the league...

God that dude is a fricking idiot. How does anyone read his shite and how does he still have a job writing about it?


I saw the same tweet. What an idiot.

Cam, who have you coached?: "Well, a bunch of guys at Michigan, Randle El, Flutie, Brees, Rivers, Flacco, Mettenberger."

JC coach, who have you coached?: "Well, I get to work with kids right out of high school for the first time."

Gilbeau: "Well, JC coach certainly gets the nod in that argument."

The fact is, there were five true freshmen QBs starting in all of the Power 5 conferences last year.
This post was edited on 1/28/15 at 1:19 pm
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