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re: Brandon Harris needs weight.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:45 am to emanresu
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:45 am to emanresu
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Acknowledging your faults is not synonymous with emotional maturity. Possessing an emotional buffer during emotion-triggering events shows emotional maturity.
Wow! That's one the best, most succinct, statements on the matter that I've ever read.
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:08 am to PennyPacker
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Holy cow, you been holding that in for a while?
And to be honest, while I am not defending Haslett (I think he was a terrible head coach) I don't think he played Brooks believing Delhomme was the better option. I think Haslett or his OC missed the boat on that one. Or Brooks was a better fit for that offense. This was not the first or last time coaches in college or the NFL have missed on a QB. I would argue that missing on a QB is more likely than getting it right. Just look around the NFL, QB issues all around.
Good example though,
No. I dont hold anything in and neither did any of the Saints fans when they were all yelling to put in Jake because every armchair QB in the solar system could see he had the spark we needed. Dont forget, the next year he took a previously 1-15 Panthers team all the way to the fricking Superbowl and lost on a last second field goal.
I would say that was more than a pretty big miss.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:11 am to nola000
Harris needs a QB coach! 
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:34 am to Datbayoubengal
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I said that he should RS and take time to bulk up and learn the offense.
The days of red shirting talented players, such as Harris, are over. imo
Many don't stay 4 yrs. So, sitting them and taking snaps away from them so that they can mature in some way is not as effective as it once was.
If Harris is as talented and has the up side some claim, he should be getting reps as the #2 guy right now and not be totally out of the picture for practice snaps to get ready of games as RS guys are for a whole yr.
If he is to be in the mix for the starter next yr., he has a better shot having worked as the #2 guy this yr. as opposed to having very limited practice this yr. and no game action.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:45 am to jelester
He has to have a want to secure the starting job and to lead the team to victory.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 9:50 am to Datbayoubengal
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I had then hoped that Jennings would play well enough that Harris could sit on the bench to learn and bulk up for a year or two.
I think most on here thought jennings would be supplanted before SEC play or during it. that was the general consensus anyways.
Harris was said to have outplayed him during the spring and fall and certainly during the spring game (what we saw publicly)
I think when harris twisted his ankle during auburn and wasn't available for florida the coaching staff just gave up on him as a whole. during games on the sidelines he was not really involved with the offense and his body language made it appear like he just didn't care anymore. like the coaches had given up on him.
i really wish Cam was down on the sidelines teaching and coaching these players. but he apparently doesn't want to. it sucks. I feel like with Cam on the sidelines it would have been much more beneficial to the team. I know everyone hates the comparison to alabama, but look at how successful they were with kiffin on the sidelines with a first year starting QB.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:01 am to monsterballads
Yeah the coordinators need to get their arse on the field.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:07 am to chilge1
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He doesn't need speed. He needs burst and agility. .. secondary to arm strength and accuracy.
Steve Young recommends he 1st learn the QB responsibilities ....then he can add the run option. Steve went into depth about the future and past of the QB position, it was very well written. It also explained why these college scramblers don't translate very well at the next level.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:11 am to Mulat
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He need a Coach
And you need an English teacher.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:17 am to nitwit
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What he needs is a buttload of emotional maturity and some worth ethic.
If he had a measure more of each, he would have started before season''s end.
Jennings held onto to the job on the basis so these two factors.
I guess you failed English class.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:24 am to emanresu
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Acknowledging your faults is not synonymous with emotional maturity. Possessing an emotional buffer during emotion-triggering events shows emotional maturity.
That's a good point about an emotional buffer, but that's not the only aspect of emotional maturity. Acknowledging faults is a big part of emotional maturity. It also shows self-awareness and/or not being delusional, accountability, and character. When someone doesn't admit their faults, it's generally an emotional pull that compels them not to. It's generally an internal issue of foolish pride.
I don't trust a person who doesn't acknowledge their faults.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 10:28 am
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:26 am to Tommy Patel
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It also explained why these college scramblers don't translate very well at the next level.
it's good to have athleticism at the QB spot, but it shouldn't be priority #1.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:43 am to cajunjj
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Harris needs a QB coach!
I assume you are joking. Looking at Cam Cameron's resume of tutoring QB's (Gus Frerotte, Drew Brees, Phillip Rivers, Joe Flacco,Jim Harbaugh, Elvis Grbac, Trent Green, Antwaan Randle El, etc. etc.) he clearly has been successful coaching QB's. Some of them were only good with him coaching them, but most of them seemed to get better each year he was their coach.
So the opinion that Cam is not a good OC or QB coach is laughable at best. And yes, I know he said he needs to do better. I don't disagree, he is doing what he should do; take responsiblity for the faults for the offense even if the faults are not all his. Just a sign that he is a good leader.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:00 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Many don't stay 4 yrs. So, sitting them and taking snaps away from them so that they can mature in some way is not as effective as it once was.
Yeah, but Harris didn't start playing football til he was in high school. Didn't play his first game til he was a junior IIRC, so he had a total of two years of experience and a 6'3 180lb body for a QB. He had only played in a spread system and was going to a complex, pro style NFL level system. That's a redshirt if I've ever seen one. He was just so immensely talented that he couldn't take one. It's part of the reason why both Rivers and Rettig transferred.
He could be more like Mariota, Luck, RG3, Hundley, or Cook instead of a Manziel. A guy that believes he needs 3 years starting. Some of it has to do with improving for the draft, but most of it is coming back to win big at college.
Harris, so far, doesn't seem like a leave as early as you can guy to me. I think he proves that he is the starter for LSU next year, and then doesn't leave til after the 2017 season. Hell, a guy like Winston would probably stay another year if he didn't have all the drama while at FSU.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 5:17 pm to Datbayoubengal
Agreed: he doesn't seem like a "leave as early as you can guy..."
Problem is, he doesn't seem to be a "start as early as you can guy", either.
He pretty much acknowledges that he hasn't worked as hard as he should.
He has a D1 contender waiting for him to take over as QB and he can't quite get motivated?
Don't get me wrong. I'm sure being a freshman and getting laid as often as he wants is pretty nice, but it's real troubling that he can't get motivated enough to take over this offense, which badly needs his raw talent.
He's getting to be hard to like, especially compared to Jennings, who apparently works his arse off!
Problem is, he doesn't seem to be a "start as early as you can guy", either.
He pretty much acknowledges that he hasn't worked as hard as he should.
He has a D1 contender waiting for him to take over as QB and he can't quite get motivated?
Don't get me wrong. I'm sure being a freshman and getting laid as often as he wants is pretty nice, but it's real troubling that he can't get motivated enough to take over this offense, which badly needs his raw talent.
He's getting to be hard to like, especially compared to Jennings, who apparently works his arse off!
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:07 pm to Datbayoubengal
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I don't know what you are trying to get at,
We must have misunderstood each other because I totally and completely agree with you. If I failed to express this accept my Meaculpa
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:18 pm to Zach
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Brandon Harris is heavier and faster than Colin Kaepernick when he was a senior at Nevada.
And Colin would have been injured in the sec.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 7:47 pm to Brageous
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Harris isn't playing bc he doesn't know wtf he's doing out there.
What has Jennings done to say he knows more? He makes all of the same mistakes rantards point out as reasons Harris doesn't know the playbook. He turns the wrong direction, he doesn't call out the correct blitzer and adjust the protection or hot routes, and he often throws the wrong route or lacks the ability to throw an accurate pass. I mean shite if the best that can be had is 130 yards when you are the playbook guru then you obviously do not have any upside.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:07 pm to natethegreat
quote:. Play the lottery, you have a better chance!....
quote: One day, LSU will not have these constant QB problems. At least that's what I keep telling myself.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 8:22 pm to Datbayoubengal
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He had only played in a spread system
Um Harris took snaps from under center about 30% of the time his senior year.
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