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re: Bottom line -- you can't win without QB play
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:34 pm to Ice Cold
Posted on 11/9/14 at 12:34 pm to Ice Cold
The other guys had to be really terrible to not be able to compete during the spring against AJ. It just floors this is the best we have developed or not. You would think just natural ability could complete more than 10 passes a game without coaching
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Posted on 11/9/14 at 1:13 pm to MorningWood
How about the guy was never given the option, so he left. How about he wasn'the given the opportunity to practice with the 1's, but expected to win the job when thrown in against the number 1 D.
If anyone can defend Miles for his treatment of QB's they, are just wrong. Lee/JJ and not benching JJ pretty much sums up his issue.
The problem we have continually had is our #1 is so bad, our #2 doesn'the get any reps.
If anyone can defend Miles for his treatment of QB's they, are just wrong. Lee/JJ and not benching JJ pretty much sums up his issue.
The problem we have continually had is our #1 is so bad, our #2 doesn'the get any reps.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 1:19 pm to SammyTiger
So you want to focus on one play instead of 10 years? Even looking at one game, last night isn't that close with a competent QB who actually can threaten the defense.
Regardless, you're entitled to your opinion.
Regardless, you're entitled to your opinion.
Posted on 11/9/14 at 4:06 pm to Ice Cold
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So you want to focus on one play instead of 10 years? Even looking at one game, last night isn't that close with a competent QB who actually can threaten the defense.
People are blaming the QB situation, and it does suck. I obvisouyl would rather Mett back there.
But at the same time we could have won this game, in my opinion we did win this game and the refs saved Bama. We helped, but the Refs helped a lot more.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:07 am to SammyTiger
Refs also made several calls that benefited LSU. With competent QB play, maybe the game isn't close enough for the refs to influence the outcome.
The point is that Miles' QB issues are chronic. You can break down any game into discrete parts and say this or that cost the game. I'm talking about the bigger picture and what the implications are for the program.
The point is that Miles' QB issues are chronic. You can break down any game into discrete parts and say this or that cost the game. I'm talking about the bigger picture and what the implications are for the program.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:17 am to Ice Cold
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When I say "win," I mean win championships. You better pick 'em right, or be able to develop them once they arrive. Otherwise, you are on the outside looking in.
In the SECW, you have Prescott, Marshall, Wallace, Sims, and now Allen. Only one is a Heisman candidate, and the rest have flaws. But they all have above average QB skills -- ability to throw the ball, read defenses, execute the game plan, and in most cases to run when called upon. Nationally, you have Mariota, Barrett, Boykin, Winston, Petty and others.
EVERY QB makes mistakes, some more often than others, and some more critically than others. But you MUST have a QB who can execute position requirements.
The ugly reality is that except for inheriting Flynn and signing Mett because he had no other good options, Miles has failed in this area. It's not an indictment of his character, and it doesn't mean he should be fired. But it has limited -- and will continue to limit -- what he and his program can accomplish.
It's extremely frustrating to see other programs identify, recruit, and develop QBs. In the SECW, with the coaches, QBs, and defenses LSU faces throughout the conference slate, QB play will be the no. 1 limiting factor. LSU can run it and play defense with anybody, but they can't and won't "win" until Miles and his staff figure it out.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 8:49 am to tiger94gop
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How about the guy was never given the option, so he left. How about he wasn'the given the opportunity to practice with the 1's, but expected to win the job when thrown in against the number 1 D.
This may be the biggest problem. Too may people were willing to say that simply because Rivers and Rettig weren't competing for the starting job in the Spring, they must not be any good. And while neither of them may be Mettenberger, I recall Cameron saying at one point that he thought Rivers had a real chance to compete for the job. Miles, however, became fixated on Jennings, just like with JJ, and never even gave these guys a chance. I truly believe that Cameron is really good at what he does, and that given a little time both Rivers and Rettig would have been reasonbly good QBs in a pro-style offense. There is only so much he can do, however, and I just don't think Jennings is going to get better, no matter how much Cameron works with him. He is not an SEC starting QB.
Posted on 11/10/14 at 10:41 am to Ice Cold
Agree
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