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re: Ben Simmons with his first career triple double

Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:09 am to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34267 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:09 am to
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Fans also treated him like crap hounding him for autographs which were then flipped on ebay.


Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30359 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:17 am to
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He loafed his way to a paycheck.


Averaging 20/12
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66416 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:19 am to
And passing a ton.

He scored he rebounded and he passed a lot to players who didn’t make points.

People still liked Josh Gray better.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 9:36 am to
Averaging 17/10/7 on 49%

A lot of crow to be served on this here website
Posted by Delmore1951
Homer La
Member since Aug 2017
908 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:21 am to
Australian Board. Who gives a frick bout him and NBA
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9245 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:41 am to
Who?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:54 am to
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A lot of crow to be served on this here website


lets see if he can make the playoffs first
Posted by roscoe mike
Member since Nov 2009
1578 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 10:59 am to
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I think Johnny Jones gets the blame on that one. He had a senior leader on the team with a history of triple doubles and basically just gave his role away to a freshmen who hadn't earned it. TQ could have responded better, but Jones sold him down the river.



I would like to have seen what CWW would have done with that roster...
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
15262 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 11:13 am to
Meh, Simmons is a great player but he gets no love from me. That season left a very sour taste in my mouth.

I'm much more interested in guys like Jarrel Martin and Jordan Mickey. Who are getting meaningful minutes on the Grizzlies and Heat, respectively.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
3287 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 12:33 pm to
You are 1 million% correct. LSU has had TWO overall #1 picks in the last 25 yrs, and both will probably go down as all time greats. That just makes it easier and easier to recruit top talent, who now with Wade here will make LSU top shelf in hoops, where they belong!!!
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:00 pm to
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which made the exploitation of Simmons even more unbearable to him.

there's no exploitation. Simmons didn't have to play in college. He could've played in Europe for a year, or just sat out.

No exploitation of the guy. If anything, he got millions of dollars of exposure playing on an SEC team.

Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:12 pm to
I'll be the contrarian here.

Look, so far Simmons has done very well. No question, and if it continues, I'll certainly eat crow.

But my concern with Simmons was his lack of shooting ability. His recent triple-double game, Simmons made only 1 shot outside the paint, which was his only attempt (18 feet).

In the other 3 games, Simmons DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT a shot outside the paint.

No question, with his size and handle, he can easily penetrate if bigger guys try to guard him on the perimeter, and he can score if they continue to do that.

But I think most teams will figure out he's not a threat outside, so they'll sag his defender off and make him score from outside.

If he can consistently do that, he'll be unstoppable. But I have yet to see it. And no other team has even made him try yet.
This post was edited on 10/24/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35378 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 1:53 pm to
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In the other 3 games, Simmons DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT a shot outside the paint.
He has a bunch of great jump shooters on the Sixers, including one of the best in JJ Reddick. Even their starting center is a damn good outside shooter. It's almost like complaining why Shaq didn't shoot more jumpers or try to get to the free throw line more.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:01 pm to
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It's almost like complaining why Shaq didn't shoot more jumpers or try to get to the free throw line more.

Terrible comparison.

Shaq played inside, with his brute strength. That was his game, and no defender was going to be able to force him outside.

Simmons is the opposite - he's a ball handler who plays on the perimeter, in a half-court set. But his defender can prevent him from penetrating, if they sag off.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94951 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:03 pm to
So LSU fans are still blaming the guy who was the first player in SEC history to be top 5 in points, rebounds, and assists.......


Yep, LSU fans are still retarded
Posted by dboyback
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2013
1579 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:06 pm to
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His team is 1-3


Without been they would be 0-4
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84754 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:08 pm to
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In the other 3 games, Simmons DIDN'T EVEN ATTEMPT a shot outside the paint.


He attempted 2 3-pointers against Toronto. He's got 5 attempts from outside of the paint this season.

He's only made 1, which was your point, but just pointing out the discrepancy in your numbers.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:13 pm to
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He attempted 2 3-pointers against Toronto.

on the shot chart I saw, those 2 looked like from almost half court, so I assumed they were desperate heaves at the end of a quarter or shot clock.

But if those were true 3-pointers, I stand corrected.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84754 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 2:15 pm to
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on the shot chart I saw, those 2 looked like from almost half court, so I assumed they were desperate heaves at the end of a quarter or shot clock. But if those were true 3-pointers, I stand corrected.
, they were backcourt shots. I'm going off of [link=(NBA.com shooting areas)]LINK[/link]
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6609 posts
Posted on 10/24/17 at 4:02 pm to
Terrible Tiger.
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