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re: Ben Simmons has grown 2" since leaving LSU

Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:07 pm to
The NBA is as bad as wrestling about overstating player's sizes.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:10 pm to
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There were 4 guys averaging double figures on that team besides Simmons. Thats not too shabby for talent around him


Compared to CJ's freshman year?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:12 pm to
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has proclaimed he would take Darrel Mitchel to run the point over Pete Maravich




Link to where I said this specific statement dumbass?...yea thats what I thought.

By the way DM, played on NCAA teams that posted a 4-2 record in 05/06 seasons. How many post-season games did PM play in or win?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 2:26 pm to
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Im saying, I want that player(s) that can get this program to the tournament...period...end of discussion. 
That is the ultimate goal....to win the SEC and get to the big dance...is it not? Because if it isn't....then yes I suppose you all can bally-hoo all you want about Ben's big numbers and what not. 

I dont give shite about individual numbers if it doesnt get the team where they want to go.


Getting to the tourney is a team accomplishment. A guy that scores 2 times a game isn't more coveted than Simmons just because he plays on a tourney team.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:01 pm to
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By the way DM, played on NCAA teams that posted a 4-2 record in 05/06 seasons. How many post-season games did PM play in or win?

Holy shite

You're really going down this road
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 3:02 pm
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:03 pm to
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By the way DM, played on NCAA teams that posted a 4-2 record in 05/06 seasons. How many post-season games did PM play in or win?





Holy shite
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:06 pm to
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There were 4 guys averaging double figures on that team besides Simmons. Thats not too shabby for talent around him.


And we played good basketball with those guys on the court.

The issue is that we were missing our other 2 best players for OOC, and then Hornsby, our only consistent 3 point shooter got hurt again.

Not to mention Quarterman fell into a black hole down the stretch

During the final 8 game stretch were Hornsby was injured and our season fell apart:

Quarterman :

35% from the field
31% from 3
57% from FT (wow)

But hey, he got 11 ppg on an efficient 10 shots per game. Basically a Blanton clone
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:12 pm to
He officially believes Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:17 pm to
Im still waiting for someone....anyone.. to tell me how many post-season games did Maravich and Simmons play in during their careers at LSU? Its a simple question.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Im still waiting for someone....anyone.. to tell me how many post-season games did Maravich and Simmons play in during their careers at LSU? Its a simple question.



LINK

You may be able to find some pictures to color too

This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:23 pm to
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m still waiting for someone....anyone.. to tell me how many post-season games did Maravich and Simmons play in during their careers at LSU? Its a simple question.





Winning games are a team accomplishment. Each individual player puts up stats to help the TEAM achieve the goal of winning. Simmons did more than any lsu player last year to HELP the team win. He led lsu in scoring, rebounds,assists,steals,and blocks.
How can you look at a player doing all that and say HE was the problem? That's like saying Leonard Fournette was the problem with our 2015 offense
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:27 pm to
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Im still waiting for someone....anyone.. to tell me how many post-season games did Maravich and Simmons play in during their careers at LSU? Its a simple question.
So you taken Steven Adams over Anthony Davis this season?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 3:44 pm to
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RedTigerRulz
Posted by HeadCoach
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:11 pm to
I understand wanting to see the glass half full with this kid, but its nearly impossible to root for this kid after watching the HBO or Showtime special, what ever it was. IF he makes a huge attitude change, sure, but not based off of what we've seen so far.
Posted by lsu2006
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 5:22 pm to
Root for him or not. I couldn't care less. I'm just tired of people putting the 2015 failure on him when he was by far our best player and we had a laughably horrible head basketball coach running the show (plus injuries and Victor's classroom troubles).
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46621 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:05 pm to
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I understand wanting to see the glass half full with this kid, but its nearly impossible to root for this kid after watching the HBO or Showtime specia


I haven't seen 1 poster say you should root for him.
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 6:52 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:47 pm to
JJ was horrible to allow BS to play on the perimeter...no way Coach K, Roy Williams, Calipari or any other top coach allows him to play primarily on the perimeter
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24228 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:13 pm to
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Link.

quote:
t was evident based on the comments from other players he was a cancer in the locker room


Link. Where are these comments?
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Ask yourself who had the most exposure between him and Fournette. Then ask who displayed the more maturity, character, loyalty, etc as a freshman. 
Ben Simmons is a product of everything that is wrong with AAU and college basketball today. 

LF grew up an hour away from lsu. Simmons grew up in Australia.
Of course LF is gonna have more of a bond with LSU.

Reread what I wrote and see if if anything LF growing up in La or loving LSU have to do with maturity.
That kid was nothing but privileged and worshipped as a youngster.
But since you want to defend him here is a sample of some of the info that came out that supports how the team felt about him and what he didn't do to fit in.

Simmons doesn't appear to have many, if any, friends around campus.
He doesn't seem to have a good relationship with his teammates.
In one scene, he's held on the court to do a postgame television interview while the rest of LSU's players head directly to the locker room. It's early January. The Tigers had just won at Vanderbilt. Simmons finished with 36 points and 14 rebounds. And I've seen this scene enough to know how it usually goes down. The player enters the locker room and his teammates immediately swarm him. That's the typical reaction. But when Simmons enters the locker room, big smile, all joy, he's met with ... almost nothing. Some teammates barely acknowledge him. And you don't need to know anything else about anything else to understand why LSU struggled from start to finish and didn't even come close to making the NCAA Tournament.
"I do think there was a lack of team chemistry," Swade said. "That's fair to say."
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:18 pm to
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Largely because he, our best player, left for the NBA. You aren't this fricking stupid, are you?






I am not sure where I can GO with this.... Yes the best player. But the worst possible coach.... He was WAY smarter than you.. He knew what was gonna happen this past year... But the team would have NOT ben any better this year than the year Ben was here...
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 8:03 pm to
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So you taken Steven Adams over Anthony Davis this season?



Whats Anthony doing this off-season anyway huh? I'll take anyone who can get my team to the playoffs/tournament. Is that clear enough for you...or are you going to continue playing the challenged short bus rider.
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