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Basketball against Tulane loses 84-74

Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:41 pm
Posted by LSU2THEMAX
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2008
851 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:41 pm
You can't hide that LSU did not play well last night, however it was an exhibition. I am sure it was a teaching moment for the players and I am hopeful we will see a much better performance when the games count.

Here are the stats:

KEY TEAM STATISTICS
Field goal percentage – Tulane 54% (32-of-59), LSU 36% (28-of-77)
3-point field goal percentage – Tulane 50% (7-of-14), LSU 17% (4-of-24)
Rebounds – LSU 48, Tulane 39
Offensive rebounds – LSU 19, Tulane 3
Second chance points – LSU 12, Tulane 2
Assists – Tulane 21, LSU 10
Turnovers – LSU 10, Tulane 15
Bench points – Tulane 30, LSU 7

INDIVIDUAL LEADERS LSU Duop Reath: 21 points, 13 rebounds
Skylar Mays: 19 points
Brandon Sampson: 11 points
Wayde Sims: 10 points, 11 rebounds
TULANE Jordan Cornish: 17 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists
Cameron Reynolds: 17 points, 9 rebounds
Samir Semic: 16 points, 6 rebounds Caleb Daniels: 11 points
Colin Slater: 11 points
NOTES LSU started Mays at point guard, Randy Onwuasor and Sampson on the wings and Reath and Sims in the post. Aaron Epps was unavailable due to a foot injury.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80181 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:44 pm to
It’s just preseason
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 7:48 pm to
Great
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21075 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

ctiger69

Great




Congrats on being the first one ready to jump off the ship for basketball season.

It took 24 hrs after 1 scrimmage for it to happen.
Posted by CoastTrashTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2015
1966 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:03 pm to
They actually played pretty well, just could not get the shots to fall and had zero post depth. You probably did not actually attend the game just posted the stats and saw loss to Tulane by 10.

I think it was combination of a number of factors as it relates to shooting one when you have so many new guys taking over key roles and minutes guys will not know until 5-6 games into the season where in the offense they are most comfortable or when to attack/hold. Also a little opening night jitters combined with a tough place to play depth perception wise. Depth perception does not account for 4-24 I get that , not saying that but in the first ten minutes for instance I know for a fact both Skylar and Brandon were on target it was just tough finding the range.

Combs was out as well as Epps, and yet we still out rebounded the Wave 38-28 and only gave up 3 off. boards. The guards and especially have to give credit to Sims rebounded there tails off and for the first time I have seen in 3 years put a body and attacked the rim.

Also with Epps out we struggled to matchup with Reynolds, and not saying anything negative whatsoever to Coach Dunleavy great person and coach but Tulane had a lot of guys back, where as for CWW he treated it more of as a scrimmage by taking guys out and teaching after fundamental lapses or effort.

The game was not sloppy and for the pretty decent crowd and how early it is in the season I was impressed with how much offense both teams had in place. I like how now under CWW when ball screens are used there is complimentary action after it and to along with it. For instance almost every time I watched when Reath would set a screen and there was a hard hedge, opposite wings were screening down or moving without the ball. Have to get more playmaking from Sampson and Onwuasor. Epps will do very well in this offense.

Baby steps in the rebuild, the effort was there as if the game counted but for instance they just dont have enough time to put in all the offense like the under 8 shots and neither team had more than two inbounds plays in.

Btw love the stack out of bounds look with a full 4 man stack, instead of CJJ bullshite 2 man look to just get the ball in.
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5332 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:46 pm to
28 of 77 shots?

They won on the boards but you won’t win with that kind of shooting.

They’ll get better
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:25 pm to
Awesome, great news.





Happy now?
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15562 posts
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:59 pm to
The ‘85 Bears were 1-3 in preseason. Jus sayin.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15190 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:52 am to
FIRE WILL WADE!
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
15650 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 2:22 am to
quote:

Congrats on being the first one ready to jump off the ship for basketball season.

It took 24 hrs after 1 scrimmage for it to happen.

wow. Lighten up Francis.
Posted by Laman1978
Earth
Member since Jan 2009
10903 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:00 am to
Wade said they had a long way to go on defense before the game. He wasn't lying. At least he knows what needs fixing.
Posted by Shalimar Sid
Member since Feb 2005
9245 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:41 am to
Rome wasn't built in one day
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14505 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 6:54 am to
quote:

They actually played pretty well, just could not get the shots to fall and had zero post depth. You probably did not actually attend the game just posted the stats and saw loss to Tulane by 10.


I just have a hard time grasping how giving up 84 points and over 50% FG percentage and shooting what.....28%....is playing pretty well. No I didn't see the game but some tells to me seem apparent.

I don't care to rationalize this, just get better and get the couple of guys you had out back and I'll give this team and WW a fair shot. I still think the future is bright but let's not go pumping to try to excuse this one...JMO.
Posted by jr33
Member since Jan 2010
1229 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 9:47 am to
Long way to go, Ww has had only 2 weeks of full practicing to change a lot of bad habits. Sims, Mayes, Sampson, Reath have a lot of bad habits to shake. One thing is for sure we played hard and there was a lot of coaching going on the entire game.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95375 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Rome wasn't built in one day
It took about 134 years for Rome to fully build its Empire. I hope we dont wait that long
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47802 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 10:50 am to
I'll be old by then. Hope it's more like 134 hours.
But I agree. They will get better soon. This is a good coach and players believe in him.
Posted by damnedoldtigah
Middle of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
4275 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 11:33 am to
It's going to take Wade awhile to install his program. In all candor I am not expecting much for the first year or two other than a competitive effort and gradual improvement. Hopefully year three starts yielding the results we all want.
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
35541 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 11:51 am to
quote:

Congrats on being the first one ready to jump off the ship for basketball season. 

It took 24 hrs after 1 scrimmage for it to happen.

Whoa. You got all that off of his 1 word post?

You need to chill out.
Posted by LSU2THEMAX
Shreveport
Member since Dec 2008
851 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

They actually played pretty well, just could not get the shots to fall and had zero post depth. You probably did not actually attend the game just posted the stats and saw loss to Tulane by 10. I think it was combination of a number of factors as it relates to shooting one when you have so many new guys taking over key roles and minutes guys will not know until 5-6 games into the season where in the offense they are most comfortable or when to attack/hold. Also a little opening night jitters combined with a tough place to play depth perception wise. Depth perception does not account for 4-24 I get that , not saying that but in the first ten minutes for instance I know for a fact both Skylar and Brandon were on target it was just tough finding the range. Combs was out as well as Epps, and yet we still out rebounded the Wave 38-28 and only gave up 3 off. boards. The guards and especially have to give credit to Sims rebounded there tails off and for the first time I have seen in 3 years put a body and attacked the rim. Also with Epps out we struggled to matchup with Reynolds, and not saying anything negative whatsoever to Coach Dunleavy great person and coach but Tulane had a lot of guys back, where as for CWW he treated it more of as a scrimmage by taking guys out and teaching after fundamental lapses or effort. The game was not sloppy and for the pretty decent crowd and how early it is in the season I was impressed with how much offense both teams had in place. I like how now under CWW when ball screens are used there is complimentary action after it and to along with it. For instance almost every time I watched when Reath would set a screen and there was a hard hedge, opposite wings were screening down or moving without the ball. Have to get more playmaking from Sampson and Onwuasor. Epps will do very well in this offense. Baby steps in the rebuild, the effort was there as if the game counted but for instance they just dont have enough time to put in all the offense like the under 8 shots and neither team had more than two inbounds plays in. Btw love the stack out of bounds look with a full 4 man stack, instead of CJJ bullshitee 2 man look to just get the ball in.


Thanks for a really great analysis. Not being there left me with only the stats and game write-up. This helps a lot. I remain positive anyway, however your analysis after seeing the game was very insightful. The season starts in 8 days. I am pumped!

On the other hand, 2 nights from now, the college football world will be rocked with the most unexpected upset in years. After I recover from the excitement, I will be ready to see the new BB program begin its climb to the top.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14505 posts
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

Long way to go, Ww has had only 2 weeks of full practicing to change a lot of bad habits. Sims, Mayes, Sampson, Reath have a lot of bad habits to shake.


I get that, but the team we played won 6 games last year, they were worse than we were. Now there is something to be said for their coach being there the previous year and his system taking shape.

quote:

One thing is for sure we played hard and there was a lot of coaching going on the entire game.

It's a shame that is an issue we even have to mention, but it was a constant under CJJ so I'm glad that's the case but that honestly is the least we should expect of our team is effort.

As for coaching I'm excited to see what WW will bring and I think it will be a plus, but having been such a die hard hoops fan for so long here, I will be cautious until I can see something tangible over time.

But I'm hopeful which CJJ took from me.
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