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Bama revealed the key weakness in Harris. (Kind of long)

Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:24 pm
Posted by beantown
Nashville
Member since Sep 2015
3429 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:24 pm
This is not a bash Harris thread. I really think he is a great talent that has lots of potential, he also has an NFL arm with NFL deep accuracy. However, his weakness is the consistency. Not efficiency; consistency.

Watching any other game this year, you can see that Harris throws a pretty ball, usually deep bombs. We have lots of exciting completions, even in the game last night. But what happens when it's a 3rd and 5, or just the beginning of a drive? He can't make that short throw. What I mean is that I don't get the same safe feeling of converting that I did with Mett or just a game manager QB. This weakness has been covered up in previous games because when defenses stack the box, he may hit a long touchdown which will scare the opposing defense long enough to back off for Fournette.

But Alabama played it perfectly. He hit a couple of deep balls, but they didn't take the bait. They basically stayed close to the line and said, "Sure you got one or two good ones, but I bet you can't hit that five yarder next play."

Now, thinking back, I don't think Harris has ever just driven the ball down the field by getting multiple first downs. He's just a homerun hitter today. He still has plenty of time to become better short game-wise, but that's all he is today.

I'm not bashing, this is what we have and I love our team. I think we are very good, just got out coached last night. We are still good, let's keep cheering for our boys!

Let me know if you agree, I could be completely off.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85067 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:26 pm to
TL;DR

We already knew he couldn't complete a pass inside 15 yards. Killing the pass game after the INT was one of many retard coaching decisions last night.
Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
18830 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:26 pm to
Probably right, but Bert Jones would have had trouble last night.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:27 pm to
There is no one to throw to over the middle
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56302 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:27 pm to
This was known long before the Bama game
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7878 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:28 pm to
Cliffs: he can't throw underneath worth a shite.
Posted by LSUKNUT
Naples, Florida
Member since Jun 2007
2315 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:29 pm to
Harris was getting pressured like an 18 year girl getting pressured to give up the puss on prom night last night. And he's still 100X better than Jennings!
Posted by STLSU
Hallandale Beach, FL
Member since Dec 2004
14683 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

There is no one to throw to over the middle


This
Posted by Plankton
Member since Jun 2015
1455 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:30 pm to
On the flip side, how well of a gameplan did Kiffin come up with?

Easy 5 yard outs that WR's could turn up the field and get YAC off of.

Slip screens.

Quick screens, with OJ Howard blocking cornerbacks.

I mean, Kiffin got their playmakers the ball in space off of easy completions to get his QB in rhythm.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61926 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

We already knew he couldn't complete a pass inside 15 yards. Killing the pass game after the INT was one of many retard coaching decisions last night.


But it was a turnover and we can't have that. It's okay to rush 14 times for 14 yards, we can stick with that and not abandon the run. But we just can't risk a turnover by passing the ball.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14182 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

But Alabama played it perfectly. He hit a couple of deep balls, but they didn't take the bait. They basically stayed close to the line and said, "Sure you got one or two good ones, but I bet you can't hit that five yarder next play."


I agree. We, the fans, see this so surely the coaches do too. Don't they work on the short passing game in practice? BH can throw a beautiful deep ball, but he struggles with short passes over the middle, quick slants, and crossing routes, and he doesn't seem to be improving in that area.
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:32 pm to
Harris is progressing very rapidly in his development and is one of the top quarterbacks in this conference. He's still in his second year of the program and playing the most difficult position in the most difficult system in CFB.

He'll get there, but he's not going to single-handedly win games for us at this time. Fournette and the OL simply got beat by the best front seven in CFB last night and that's about all there is to it.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7878 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Don't they work on the short passing game in practice?


You can't coach accuracy.

Posted by LSU Beach Lover
Member since Sep 2011
470 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:36 pm to
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Probably right, but Bert Jones would have had trouble last night.



This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15820 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

There is no one to throw to over the middle

Weren't Desean Smith and Jacory Washington supposed to be game changing match up nightmares for defenses? Where are those guys?
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Val colvin
Member since Oct 2015
25 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:38 pm to
Consistency comes with repetition. Not just in practice but more importantly in games . The coaching staff should have been giving him short throws and throws to the backs all season. They never did. All of a sudden you think it will happen against Bama?
Posted by NotRight37
Nashville, TN
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:41 pm to
Good point OP, his 6 completions went for 128 yards...21+ YPR, but he hasn't thrown well in the short game all year. Still happy he is the starter for sure. Dink and dunk like Coker, 18 completions for 184, apparently isn't in LSU's DNA.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7958 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

However, his weakness is the consistency. Not efficiency; consistency.


Yes. This is the kind of thing that improves with actually throwing the ball in games.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67940 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:52 pm to
What happened to using the tight end? I mean shite, Jeter was looking promising earlier this season, then he disappears. WTF does the offensive staff do at the meetings?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

We already knew he couldn't complete a pass inside 15 yards.


Someone needs to explain this to me. I mean I know it to be true. But why?
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