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Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:10 pm
This question is specifically addressed to those who hate Miles and "wish he'd gone to Michigan" in 2007 (although all responses are welcome):
If you could re-write history and make it so that Miles accepted the Michigan job in 2007, would you?
Necessary qualifications and assumptions:
1. LSU loses the SEC title game (and does not play in the national title) if Les leaves.
2. LSU is able to hire the best available coach after the bowl season. Please do not respond and say "Sure, if it means we get Saban or Meyers." Neither would have left their job for LSU. I personally do not remember which candidates we would have been interested in or had a shot at but you can assume we'd hire the best person we had a legitimate shot at (i.e., not Sean Payton).
3. Such coach does not win a national title in either the 2008 or 2009 season. Going forward, who knows.
4. Assume the 2008 and 2009 seasons would be better than what actually happened in those season (maybe win the west one year).
Personally, I wouldn't give up a national title for the chance of greater future success. No matter who the coach is, we might not win another in the next 20 years. Bird in the hand thing.
And if you hate all the assumptions or don't think they are realistic, don't respond. I just get sick of hearing "I wish Les had gone to Michigan" when no one really knows what the result of that would have been.
If you could re-write history and make it so that Miles accepted the Michigan job in 2007, would you?
Necessary qualifications and assumptions:
1. LSU loses the SEC title game (and does not play in the national title) if Les leaves.
2. LSU is able to hire the best available coach after the bowl season. Please do not respond and say "Sure, if it means we get Saban or Meyers." Neither would have left their job for LSU. I personally do not remember which candidates we would have been interested in or had a shot at but you can assume we'd hire the best person we had a legitimate shot at (i.e., not Sean Payton).
3. Such coach does not win a national title in either the 2008 or 2009 season. Going forward, who knows.
4. Assume the 2008 and 2009 seasons would be better than what actually happened in those season (maybe win the west one year).
Personally, I wouldn't give up a national title for the chance of greater future success. No matter who the coach is, we might not win another in the next 20 years. Bird in the hand thing.
And if you hate all the assumptions or don't think they are realistic, don't respond. I just get sick of hearing "I wish Les had gone to Michigan" when no one really knows what the result of that would have been.
This post was edited on 5/7/10 at 12:13 pm
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Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:12 pm to ChiSaint
quote:
1. LSU loses the SEC title game (and does not play in the national title) if Les leaves.
as much as I would love to see Les Miles depart Baton Rouge that requirement alone prohibits me from wishing it had occurred in 2007. National championships are hard to come by and any plague is worth winning one.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:15 pm to ChiSaint
5. Assume this post, along with the 100000 others like it, did not appear.
I choose OPTION 5!!!!
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
I choose OPTION 5!!!!
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:19 pm to TIGERFANZZ
As with life,be careful what you wish for, but a NC can't be taken away(ask Pete Carroll).
Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:23 pm to TIGERFANZZ
Looking at your post history, you appear primarily type in these types of threads and bitch about their repetitive nature. Instead of bitching about how this message board covers the same topic 500 times (which it does), why not contribute some insightful and compelling offseason analysis? Maybe a discussion about what the punting situation looks like at LSU for 2011 or beyond? Or arguments about whether Crappell or Russian should be primary LS. If you have no interesting topics to discuss, then please shut the hell up and stop bitching about the posts that are being made.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:31 pm to ChiSaint
Screw assumption number 4 and say LSU finishes with the same record in 2008 and 2009. Everybody would be bitching about how we LOST Les Miles who was 33-7 in his 3 years at LSU and that he had stabilized the program among the nation's elite tier of teams and that the guy who took over has run it back into the ground..... and we'd be clamoring for Miles return..
Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:52 pm to ChiSaint
quote:
stop bitching about the posts that are being made.
So you are saying I should follow your lead & NOT respond to post I don't like? Ok, I'll start after this one if you do too. Deal?
quote:
why not contribute some insightful and compelling offseason analysis?
Ok, let's see, it doesn't get any more insightful & compelling than the 100001st post about the SAME DAMN THING. And no doubt talk about "what if" we get rid of or would have gotten rid of our head coach, is very insightful & compelling. Instead of starting this crap thread again, why don't YOU start a
quote:I promise, if you prove compelling or insightful, I'll follow along. Promise, no take backs & no fingers crossed!
discussion about what the punting situation looks like at LSU for 2011 or beyond? Or arguments about whether Crappell or Russian should be primary LS
G E A U X T I G E R S!!!
Posted on 5/7/10 at 12:57 pm to ChiSaint
Good post ChiSaint (even though there are about 50 of these a day. For all of the Miles haters right now, remember that hindsight is always 20/20. In 2007 I'm sure the vast majority of those calling for his head today were celebrating the fact that he spurned his beloved alma mater to stay at LSU. Now after 2 "sub-par" years its time for a change and the administration was crazy for giving this guy such a HUGE buyout in '07. Yet, thats I'm sure exactly what they had to do in order to keep him at LSU. I was never a huge fan of the hire, but I can't complain too much with 2 SECCG apearances and a NC in 5 years. If he wins this year, the axels on the bandwagon may break with everyone jumping back on.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 2:00 pm to Jay Quest
quote:
as much as I would love to see Les Miles depart Baton Rouge that requirement alone prohibits me from wishing it had occurred in 2007.
I second this. My only wish is that Skip and the Astronaut didn't force his hand before the SEC Championship. Mich didn't hire RR til after the MNC. So Les could have still walked then.
I just wish Skip had never panicked and settled for Miles the first time.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 2:09 pm to ChiSaint
Who knows about 2008, though. We had a pretty good offense all things considered. If we had a somewhat competent defense, we could have had a fantastic season.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 2:56 pm to ChiSaint
Why are your possible scenarios all negative? Who's to say that had Miles left, the players would have still won the game that day, and won a national title.
If we're going to talk in "what if's" you have to include both sides, not just the worst case scenario.
If we're going to talk in "what if's" you have to include both sides, not just the worst case scenario.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 3:13 pm to RealityTiger
I did that to see how many, if any, posters would come forward and say that they'd be willing to give up the NC in order to have the best available coach and an potentially brighter future.
If the option was both the best available coach and the national title, I'm guessing there'd be only a handful of posters who'd rather have Miles. Maybe you’re right and the alternative should be presented and see who would still want to retain Miles in that scenario.
If the option was both the best available coach and the national title, I'm guessing there'd be only a handful of posters who'd rather have Miles. Maybe you’re right and the alternative should be presented and see who would still want to retain Miles in that scenario.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 3:21 pm to ChiSaint
quote:
Back to the Future
GREAT MOVIE!!! YOU SHOULD SEE IT!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 5/7/10 at 3:48 pm to RealityTiger
quote:This.
Why are your possible scenarios all negative? Who's to say that had Miles left, the players would have still won the game that day, and won a national title.
However, going by the rules of the thread, I would not trade a NC for Miles departure in '07.
Posted on 5/7/10 at 3:51 pm to ChiSaint
quote:You're scenario & assumption is valid.
If the option was both the best available coach and the national title, I'm guessing there'd be only a handful of posters who'd rather have Miles. Maybe you’re right and the alternative should be presented and see who would still want to retain Miles in that scenario.
The VAST majority of LSU football fans would take the NC & best available coach (regardless of what the Miles drones on TD say).
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