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Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:51 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:51 am to
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please list the available HCs with a proven track record of success at a P5 school


Every successful coordinator is more qualified than Ed Orgeron.

Has Ed Orgeron EVER ran a successful offense?
Has Ed Orgeron EVER ran a successful defense?
Has Ed Orgeron EVER ran a successful program?
Please list Ed Orgeron being successful at anything above Dline coach and recruiting coordinator.
There are too many coaches in cfb to name that are more qualified than Ed Orgeron.
Hell both of our coordinators have had success at higher coaching position than ed orgeron.

So to answer your question, there are too many to name.
Derek Dooley is more qualified than Ed Orgeron. Derek Mason at Vandy is more qualified than Ed Orgeron. Please list What ed orgeron has done at hc and spare me the bullshite interim tenure. Being an interim coach is not running a program.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 11:58 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:52 am to
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pretty sure Mullen tried to get Orgeron to take the DC spot at State prior to last year but Orgeron said thank but no thanks


bullshite.
Yeah Ed Orgeron was turning down sec dc position to be lsu's dline coach.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 11:55 am to
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o after that, LSU was left with Fedora.


Holy shite. You posters are amazing.

You think there isnt dozens of coaches in cfb more qualified than a career dline coach?
Every single successful coordinator is more qualified than Ed Orgeron. The simple fact that you think those 3 coaches are the only coaches more qualified than a 55 year old career dline coach tells me all i need to know.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 11:59 am
Posted by tigergym
South Central LA
Member since Jan 2009
1077 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:05 pm to
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you guys are selling him out too soon


Not everyone dose this.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:07 pm to
Its telling when fans of other SEC programs are liking your coaching hire.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2177 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:15 pm to
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If your program


Again, no one was talking about the two programs. But you obviously need that to make your point. I will give you that Dabo was a lot younger.

But you carry on with your agenda.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2177 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:17 pm to
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dozens of coaches in cfb more qualified than a career dline coach


Guess what dude, the two best up and comers didn't want the job at LSU. You tell me one single successful coach who showed any interest in our job...Ill hang up and listen.l
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15903 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:27 pm to
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You tell me one single successful coach who showed any interest in our job

That's a lame question since no one with a current job is going to publicly admit they were interested in LSU.

However, Fedora would've crawled to Baton Rouge and if we had a legitimate coaching search, Gundy was likely attainable as well.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:31 pm to
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Again, no one was talking about the two programs. But you obviously need that to make your point. I will give you that Dabo was a lot younger.


Thats matters. It's not a huge deal if a mediocre program hires a position coach. Thats the point. Clemson hadnt won a conf title in 19 years. They had 2 top 20 finishes in 19 years.
Im sorry you cant understand the difference and the state of the programs matter.
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2177 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:34 pm to
Probably not......"likely". You are assuming since you really have no idea if those people were contacted.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:36 pm to
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Guess what dude, the two best up and comers didn't want the job at LSU.

What? We didnt have a coaching search. We went after the 2 obvious candidates and then hired a position coach. We dont know
Who we couldve gotten.
quote:

You tell me one single successful coach who showed any interest in our job...Il


Any coordinator that has had success wouldve been better. What success has ed orgeron ever had? I dont need to hang up and listen because its none.
This is your list.
1. Herman
2. Jimbo
3. A 55 year old career dline coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense, or program.

Any hc with any success what so ever and any successful coordinator is more qualified than Ed Orgeron.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:38 pm to
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That's a lame question since no one with a current job is going to publicly admit they were interested in LSU.

However, Fedora would've crawled to Baton Rouge and if we had a legitimate coaching search, Gundy was likely attainable as well.


Just let them keep thinking that only list of qualified coaches is ...
1. Herman
2. Jimbo
3. Ed orgeron


Ed Orgeron wasnt even the most qualified coach on our staff.

Dave aranda and Canada have both had more success than Ed Orgeron.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:42 pm to
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Being an interim coach is not running a program.


neither is being an experienced coordinator. If LSU had hired an up and coming coordinator, the backlash would have been much, much worse than promoting from within
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64659 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:44 pm to
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Prior to that had he also been the worst coach at Virginia in at least 30 years?

prior to that he was selling real estate in South Carolina and attending the same church as Tommy Bowden
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2177 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:49 pm to
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hc with any success what so ever and any successful coordinator is more qualified than Ed Orgeron.


No one wanted our job. That's a fact. Neither Jimbo or Herman wanted it- they used our vacancy to their benefit.....but you keep on keeping on. It fits your narrative. You are one of those people who think just because its LSU that anyone would be happy to take the job. Clearly its not as prestigious of a job as you would like to think.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27829 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:54 pm to
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You tell me one single successful coach who showed any interest in our job...Ill hang up and listen.

I can see you are one of the many who were successfully brainwashed by Joe Alleva into thinking our program is basically garbage and not worth viewing as one of the best in college football.

Congratulations.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27829 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 12:57 pm to
There is a lot of middle ground between thinking
quote:

just because its LSU that anyone would be happy to take the job

and saying
quote:

No one wanted our job.

This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 1:07 pm to
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I just believe lsu should hire a proven coach.




We took a chance with a marginal coach with a marginal record at OSU whose team played in a weaker conference than the SEC. That decision turned out alright....for a while.

I'm not sold on O yet either. When he has a full body of work (whole season) in front of him, then we can decide whether it was a mistake or not. But to just assume he's still the same O that fricked up the OM job the first time around doesnt make sense.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 1:31 pm to
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neither is being an experienced coordinator

It shows you can you a side of the ball. Ed orgeron has never ran a successful offense, defense or program.
There is a reason you dont see big time cfb programs hiring career dline coaches.
Running a successful offense or defense makes a coach more qualified than someone that has never done either.
There are dozens of coordinators that are more qualified than Ed Orgeron.
Derek Mason at Vandy is more qualified than Ed Orgeron. Let that sink in. Vandy's head coach has accomplished more than ed orgeron has.
Dave Aranda and Matt Canada are more qualified than Ed Orgeron. I dont blame Coach O. I blame our joke of an ad that refused to do his job after his limg list of 2 obvious candidates had been exhausted.
Posted by NOLApurpleandgold
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 1/23/17 at 1:45 pm to
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again i hope coach O has great success at lsu


You are a liar.
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