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re: Anybody want to give credit to the opposing pitcher that had ERA of 1 this year?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:26 am to PurpleAndGold86
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:26 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Anybody that knows baseball can plainly see that the hitters had a fine approach yesterday. If we get a couple hits with RISP we win.
Admittedly, I didn't get to watch a majority of the game because I was at work. I was just going off of the 17 or so fly balls we hit.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:29 am to UpToPar
Yeah, the players didn't realize they were hitting a lot of lazy fly balls. Of course they knew it. Just couldn't get it done. Laird did well but if his last at bat is a hit, the game is tied. The little things just didn't happen.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 10:31 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:30 am to UpToPar
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Admittedly, I didn't get to watch a majority of the game because I was at work.
Then why bother making a comment about our hitting approach at the plate?
Just be honest, do you even watch much baseball outside of a few LSU games? Not that I am bashing you if you don't, but I'm just curious as to why even comment about the approach at the plate if you didn't watch the game.
Just because we had a lot of fly ball outs does not mean that the approach was bad. We also had 10 hits, 5 walks and a hit batter. 16 base runners in a 9 inning game should score more than 2 runs. We didn't get a hit when we needed it.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:31 am to tigerskin
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Of course they knew it. Just couldn't get it done
In the first game they couldn't get it done because they didn't have the right approach. I bet they swang at more balls out the zone than in the zone.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:33 am to UpToPar
Well we are talking about the second game. So the more you talk about a game you didn't watch the more idiotic you sound.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:38 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Then why bother making a comment about our hitting approach at the plate?
I was talking about the two games. I watched the entire first game, and listened and caught a bit of the second game at work. I did watch the last 2 innings and we seemed to hit a few balls hard right at them. However, 17 fly balls is ridiculous. Outside of two or three guys, we are not a power hitting team. In that park, you can't hit that many balls in the air and expect to win. I'm sorry if we looked great at the plate flying out 17 times.
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Just be honest, do you even watch much baseball outside of a few LSU games? Not that I am bashing you if you don't, but I'm just curious as to why even comment about the approach at the plate if you didn't watch the game.
This is always a great tactic to use while arguing. I've been around baseball for a while and know the game. Again, I'm sorry if we looked great at the plate flying out 17 times.
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Just because we had a lot of fly ball outs does not mean that the approach was bad. We also had 10 hits, 5 walks and a hit batter. 16 base runners in a 9 inning game should score more than 2 runs. We didn't get a hit when we needed it.
Absolutely it does. After the first game, we should have adjusted our approach and hit the ball on the ground. It was fairly obvious we were not going to hit the ball out that park, and the OF had plenty of room to run balls down. I agree, we had our chances. However, for instance, if Laird hits that ball on the ground in the 8th, it gets through the infield and we score that run.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:41 am to UpToPar
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I've been around baseball for a while and know the game.
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if Laird hits that ball on the ground in the 8th, it gets through the infield and we score that run.
I was trying not to bash you at first- Now I will just agree with the other poster and tell you that you're an idiot and you don't know much about the game.
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we should have adjusted our approach and hit the ball on the ground.
Yes because this is the simple approach to baseball. Just hit on the ground and you will win!Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:47 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Yes because this is the simple approach to baseball. Just hit on the ground and you will win!
In that ballpark, you have to get the ball out the air. Again, if we looked good flying out 17 times, I apologize.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:50 am to UpToPar
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Again, if we looked good flying out 17 times
Yeah, because if we hit in on the ground it would have automatically gone through the infield and we would have looked a lot better doing that.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:51 am to PurpleAndGold86
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Yeah, because if we hit in on the ground it would have automatically gone through the infield and we would have looked a lot better doing that.
This is exactly what I said. Good Job.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:53 am to UpToPar
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This is exactly what I said.
Actually you did. You just said a couple posts back that if Laird hits the ball on the ground with the bases loaded it would have been a base hit. That shows where you level of knowledge is at.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 10:56 am to PurpleAndGold86
That particular ball. If he hits it on the ground assuming its not a dribbler, it gets through the infield and we score the run.
Obviously not every ground ball gets through the infield, but the percentages of getting on base increase when the ball is hit on the ground in that park. How many of our hits were hit on the ground yesterday?
Obviously not every ground ball gets through the infield, but the percentages of getting on base increase when the ball is hit on the ground in that park. How many of our hits were hit on the ground yesterday?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:02 am to UpToPar
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If he hits it on the ground assuming its not a dribbler, it gets through the infield and we score the run.
Gee really going out on a limb there. If he barrels a ball up and hits it solidly on the ground between the SS and 3B it gets in to LF for a hit.
I guess we could say if he had barreled it up and hit a line drive it could have gone over the LFs head for a 3 run double.
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but the percentages of getting on base increase when the ball is hit on the ground in that park.
The park has absolutely NOTHING to do with a shallow fly ball being a hit or not. Ibarra's balls were effected by the park, but Laird's ball had nothing to do with the park.
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How many of our hits were hit on the ground yesterday?
About half. The other half were line drives or balls that were in the air.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:04 am to PurpleAndGold86
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I guess we could say if he had barreled it up and hit a line drive it could have gone over the LFs head for a 3 run double.
He wasn't hitting it over the LF head. That's why that ball should be hit on the ground.
Look, it's tough to come in to the CWS and change your approach at the plate as a team, but that's what we had to do to be successful. We didn't do it, and hit plenty of lazy fly balls.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:14 am to UpToPar
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He wasn't hitting it over the LF head.
Why?
Are you saying this because "the fences are deep"?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:18 am to UpToPar
I just lost 20 IQ points reading this cat fight
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:24 am to PhiTauSMTTT
That's a lot considering you probably only had about that many to lose to begin with.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:26 am to PurpleAndGold86
No, because Laird is not a power hitter and he was going opposite field. The ball did not carry and that park. How many balls did you see go over outfielder's heads in the CWS? The catcher from Indiana hit a bomb opening night and the CF was playing shallow and still ran it down.
The fact of the matter is when HR are essentially taken out of the game, hitters will be more successful hitting the ball on the ground. This is statistically supported and pretty much uniform across baseball. However, because of the presence of HR and extra base hits, although a ground ball has a higher chance of becoming a base hit, a fly ball has a higher chance of yielding a better result. In this park though, the ball was not traveling and it was tough to come by extra base hits. (out of our 10 hits, 9 were singles)
The fact of the matter is when HR are essentially taken out of the game, hitters will be more successful hitting the ball on the ground. This is statistically supported and pretty much uniform across baseball. However, because of the presence of HR and extra base hits, although a ground ball has a higher chance of becoming a base hit, a fly ball has a higher chance of yielding a better result. In this park though, the ball was not traveling and it was tough to come by extra base hits. (out of our 10 hits, 9 were singles)
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:27 am to UpToPar
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Look, it's tough to come in to the CWS and change your approach at the plate as a team
You mean the fact the team seemed shocked to go up against good pitching?
Maybe, mentally, they should expect better and better pitching as the post-season goes on.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 11:32 am to Chimlim
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You mean the fact the team seemed shocked to go up against good pitching?
They faced much better pitching in the super and in the SEC tournament. Sorry, but these guys were not better than Gray or Stanek.
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